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11 11 13 33 13 PSY 310 HISTORY Psychology Class 3 W5 This week was a very stressful week. I picked up a few more pieces to my theory; how to reorganize psychology. Most of my emphasis this week was on doing the team assignment. I do however recognize the importance of cognitive and neuro-biology when it comes to psychology. Many important aspects of psychology stem directly how the brain and neuro-system function as a synchronous unit. I remember strongly the first chapter where the interaction going on between all the various aspects of what causes the “Jacobs ladder” to occur allowing though to take place. I am reminded of those first lessons in this week’s reading and how important cognition, the autonomic nervous system, and neurobiology play crucial portions with each other. Technology has played an impressive portion to academic understanding of how we think. Math creates physics, applied physics is engineering, engineering is what makes the instruments. I found that connection to be very interesting. I learned a great deal in this class. I will be rewriting a previous paper on Adolf because of many of the lessons I learned from this class. I.e. same environment created x number of people each had a profound affect on western culture. Tracking how each of those people added and took away some very interesting aspects of life as we know it today. W5q2 jenn desilva last post I have been hoping for 5 weeks to have chats like this one. I knew we would be able to have chats. But alas it had to wait till the very last few hours before class was over. I agree with most of what you stated, with this addition. My thoughts on the subject are from the Sumerian cuneiform language. God/Divinity/? is spelled with a simple character * but with another line added flat/horizontal/left to right through the middle. That character represents the specific signature of magnetosphere in which whatever “god” is being discussed. But the Sumerian understanding of god is radically different than that of the Zoroastrian and his begat teachings. The viewpoints are so radically different as to become hard to translate between. You might know Zoroastrian by his religious title Sumerian directly translated “red earth” or in culturally English translated “Priest” in Hebrew “Adam”. Why is this important, well for one the aspects of your selfishness is closer to the original than it is to the later language translations of evil. For two Newton’s third law agrees with you equal and opposite reaction would be a very good physics definition for what you just described. Emotionally you just described the third law. The benefits to the electronic age, interesting non restrictive chats are possible outside a classroom. Your future career in advanced tech will require talking to advisors who will have some idea of how to get you to the proper teachers and equipment to have fun with. I suggest you call MIT and talk to them about your options. I could make other suggestions but those are private, for your eyes only. If I did not think you could make MIT, why would I waste my time suggesting it. W5q2 medicine To me the sentences from a client “you have no idea what I am going through.” Is just about the largest manipulation to avoid actual healing there is. From some experience I can tell you that the best response every time is, the techniques work. Techniques do not care about the situation in which the damage occurred, the physics is simple. If x is broken, use x treatment to fix. What does it matter if the therapist can relate on an emotional level with the client. To me that is the first sign a challenging of the dominant paradigm. Meet that challenge not as an equal but a scholar who knows the fix. The relate to each other is not a good therapy situation. Now I am not meaning to go as far as to say a celebrate priest can counsel married couples based on x therapy. I am saying proper training in actual science can keep the d/s therapist/client power dynamic in check. Do cancer patients demand their oncologist to be a recovering cancer patient to treat them, obvious answer. Psychology needs to form some strong boundaries to keep the d/s in check. The therapist is in charge, the client is to do the work. The illusion of being taken care of is the most powerful tool in a medical hand bag. Placebo effect has a measured response. MDs have their aer(sp) or authority, but psychologists almost apologize for speaking up. Stand up and stand tall. Psychology needs it own aer(sp) of authority. W5q1 video camera 2 For most people they live their lives according to specific sets of conditioned responses. Get up at x number on the clock, clean the body, get x volume of food, take care of family, arrive at work at x time, ect. But for those with my kind of brain, we specifically avoid any and all non essential condeitioned responses. Drives everyone around us nuts, but we are free to put out minds to examining the evidence of whatever catches our fancy study it. I know how hard it is for me to write, and I really want to. Minimum word counts are for those that do not have much ability to write at all. Others would not be able to do any kind of post high school academics, no sufficient ability to write even paraphrase. But most people have a great ability to talk. So instead of writing, talk. Be mindful in practice with patients where their strengths and weaknesses are. Converting therapies based on patients needs versus the discipline model. Giving the patient what they need is the point. This is another in a long time of reasons to take seriously into account reorganizing psychology. So one therapist can refer clients around to get the best care for the best issue. How many of us go to many different physical doctors for different ailments. PT, ENT, GP, orthopedics, peds for kids, etc. If medical science is divided, why not apply the same to psychology. Since the brain is vastly more complicated than the body? An animal in a lab can only tell science up to the development stage of the animal. Echoes can be seen in more advanced i.e. a three year olds temper tantrum looks similar to an adult in a blind rage. But the similarities end there. Some of us will be moving into statistics class. Which the basis of statistics equations can be found in basic algebra, but the two other than basic rules are different. W5q2
tesla Not
only yes, but emphatic yes. but why are those classes not being offered now!!
Sign me up, please. The
areas in which are covered in psychology are far too limited. Now we know,
thanks to biological psychology, the brain weights 3 lbs.
But those three little lbs of weight can do things which are absolutely
phenomenal. I think a course on tesla should be a standard
course. An entire 3 classes on and about neurons, electro-magnetic (how we
think), and sociology need to be added. I was reading yesterday about the tower of
babyle. A proven archaeological site, and all kinds of other details about
the location. After about 2 hours of reading, I ran across a small side note.
The tower of babyle was dedicated to the god Jupiter. Why is this radically
important, because of very complicated physics. TO sum it up, the more we
understand about those little 3 lbs, the more we will understand about the
physics of galaxies. The opposite is also a hard fact, the more we understand
about galaxies the more we can understand about how we think. Ps side note, at some point the gass giant
Jupiter will probably become a future brown draft star. Why is this
important, we do not live in a single solar system. We do not live in a
binary system either. Biological medicine has already proven that subatomic
particles have a direct influence on the molecular structures they interact
with. The Z particles also have profound affects. Biological psychology will
start to be able to measure subatomic and z particles affects on thinking at
some point in the future. I can go on, but I am starting to think I am boring
my audience. W5q2 biological psychology What contemporary technologies have made
significant contributions to biological psychology in the last half of the
20th century? The frmi; by providing detailed scans of the
human and other animals brains we can find out how we think. Understdning
with a measurable and comparable scan can start to determine exactly how we
think. Thinking is complicated; group think, patriotism think, religious
think, mob think, sociological think, some kind of group hypnosis thinking,
family, group of friends, individual, etc are all different kinds of ways a
given person thinks. Knowing we think in odd ways does not diminish
the facts. Tracking the flow of blood has healed psychology measure thinking
in all the above groups like never before. “Which technology do you think has made the most
significant contribution?” The none invasive technologies, and the none
invasive technologies which will be coming out. There is an app for a cell
phone which measures the em disturbances in the areas the phone. This tool is
great but hard to understand how it use it. It is basically a cut down
version of igons “ghostbusters” tool. Which let him know when and where the
next ghost was going to arrive. Almost 4 decades later and that technology is
almost ready to be used in science. It will help psychology by being able to read a
personal fluxuation with emotion em sphere i.e. magnetosphere. If a person is
convinced x em is z feeling, then they can be helped to understand that x is
x y is y and z is z. get those things straight and real healing can begin.
Till then it is up to the therapist to build enough of a case history to put
appropriate stories with appropriate emotions, adjusting as needed. W5q1 phone The largest problem therapists face is the issues surrounding trust. Being able to do things by phone, I can prove there are people who will say things on a phone nothing short of death will make them say in public. Public being anyplace not directly in their four walls and a locked door area of comfort. Arriving at any location to do anything will require at least a two hour prep time. Getting ready to go, going, traveling, arriving, checking in, waiting, sitting, and then entering the therapy door. For some people that 2 hours is an exhausting experience to say the absolute least. By the time they arrive they are spent “emotionally” for the day. having to drudge up emotions, memories, and or take silence/loud advise about life from someone who is by default in an adversarial/domination position with you takes the effectiveness of the sessions down by at least 75%. Now that same person if they were in their comfort zone, they can tell the therapist all kinds of things and have enough emotional energy to actually get some work done. It makes the therapists job harder because the person is more able to fight off the help, but medicine the last time I checked is not for those easily influenced. If you fall for “these are not the droids you are looking for” then this is not the line of work you need to be in anyway. One reason medical science choose to crank the rules, schooling, restrictions, and every other aspect of its training up is to solve this very problem. The medical training weeds out the week. So does this field. Trying to help someone because you have a caring heart is the last thing you should be doing. Care is great; in moderation, at appropriate times, and apply the correct medication at the correct times. Hemlock is a great medication when applied correctly, arsenic is also awesome provided strict conditions of and RX. Caring for patients needs to be tempered with just as much RX as the hardest medications. W5q1 next leap Imagine the next leap in technology. What possibly can the advances of the next be? Just because we have trouble dealing with the current levels of tech, does not mean 6 years olds having issues. Thing of what a 15 year old who did not grow up in a world without a pocket cell phone, a pda, a laptop (more powerful than the strongest supercomputers made in the 1980s), and electric mail capable of sending a letter to anyone with computer access around the world at the speed of light. Our world as those older than say 27 is a vastly different place, then the technology they will build. I being a bit older than a decade past 28. When I was 27 a pda was a pen and paper, a cell phone was very expensive and fit in a fanny pack. Now they are the size of a belt buckle. As scholars we need to be aware of there is no stopping the momentum of technology. A thousand groups have tried in vane to stop it, they only were able to prevent it for progressing too fast. The roman empire could have developed the industrial age at 50 c.e. From our industrial age to Apollo was less than 100 years. The first satellite could have gone into orbit at the time 150 c.e. But instead http://din-timelines.com/0150-0199_timeline.shtml war, pestilence, greed, and religious nuts prevented the industrial age then. What is preventing advancements now? Last time I check we have enemies at the gate; china, n korea, taliban, al quaida, etc all wanting to dance a jig on our grave. Technology and psychology will play major rolls in our victory or defeat. Determining how the individual thinks will allow a bridge between all the various groups. Or a very quick identification of we life or you do, bang. They throw rocks we fire mach 4 missiles from 300 miles away; we win. I am not political I like breathing, and being able to say what I want. Our enemies both foreign and domestic like telling me VIOLENTLY to shut up. Since I understand enough psychology, I know how to bridge to them and package what I want to say into a more pleasing amount of flavor of sugar. To get to the next leap will require dealing with the “no, no, no” screamers. W5q1 top gun 2 “Well thanks T.R!! That was very motivational.” Excellent. Now turn motivation from a want to a good plan. “I know one day I will be that "top pilot." Only if you create a good plan and stick to it. The key to studying
“large amounts of butt glue” “I just do not know how to get there. Some say it is motivation and just
doing that gets a person to the place they want to be. Well, I am
motivated...I just can't figure out what direction to go in. Another factor,
is money. I make good money now in a field that has nothing to do with
psychology. In order for me to start somewhere I have to take a HUGE pay-cut.
I just can't afford that at this point in my life.” You are missing the point, the negatives are only obstacles to
overcome. Look at everything as an operation. You know what the goal is, you
have no idea how to get their. Well you need to chat with someone who can
advise you correctly as to creating a roadmap to achieve. One of my previous jobs was an a strategic planner. Contacting someone
how understands how to navigate and has an idea of the pitfalls involved is
essential. In another email I bragged that I am not at MIT for a reason. Well
that was not a brag I could apply and get a full boat, but I have a better
plan. I sot out advise how to do what I want to do from good trustable
sources and I was able to create a good plan as to how to get me to my
ultimate goal. Based on 4 weeks of emails you have great friends but no one has the
foggiest idea how to advise you to go to “MIT”. So you need someone who can
advise you correctly. Correct advise at the correct time might sound psychological, but that
is just one avenue in which to explore. Having a good sociological model of
how the culture is operating is almost more important. Reference. A hippie on
the height circa 1966 perfect, that person can walk around with little if
anything on with a joint in their mouth. But that same person same time in
say Kansas city equivalent street would not make off the block without being
arrested and all kinds of other nastiness. A dandy on the street in nyc circa
1750 would not stick out at all, but a dandy of the 1910 variety in that same
place would get killed or beaten up. Context; what do you want, how to go
about achieving correctly. W5q1 observation skills Observation skills can be applied to any given sense. As you pointed out visual clues will tell you a great deal about a patients health. But those are visual clues, but there are other senses which can pain the same picture using different key measurement points. The voice for example is a great way to find those key measuring points. Tracking the sentence structure, breathing patterns, heart rate, what stresses are in their live. All by paying attention to the voice. Now the dipthongs in the voice itself can also tell you all kinds of really cool things. You would be surprised at just how much a trained observer can determine from listening intently to someone talking. The if the voice goes up soprano, or down base, gravel, what they are trying to hide, what they want to overemphasis, etc. All kinds of really cool stuff can be found in the voice. Smells are harder to build a good picture out of, but it is still possible to gain an idea. The mannerisms in which people do carry over into who each person chooses to live their lives. What the body does is how it smells. Touch for a trained observer is the easiest one. W5q1 law First thing I think of is the song “sweet home Alabama”, second thing I think about is how limited the job is. There is only so much help a psychologist can do in a lock down facility. Transporting dangerous people around in bus’s, planes, and of course private jets is a symptom of this countries choices in dealing with the “undesirables” of the society. Little can be done to fix and or correct the situation so the only real answer is, to do the best with extremely limiations. Take for example your patient who was more afraid of guards than of dying from whatever issues he had medically. If he would have been even slightly more cooperative he could have had one of those private trips to a hospital icu. But since federal prisons have not mentally advanced much beyond that of 1850 sociological model there is little which can be done to rectify the situation. Modern prisons are based on two models; One the Greek philosophy of; you will obey our (leaders) rules and regulations or you will be stripped of your full citizenship privileges and allow the full citizens to treat you according o your new class structure status. Two the monotheistic laws of; an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. Just ignoring the vengeance is myn ….. But the point is not to condemn the American prison system, from all over the world the system is not that bad. A few are better (in some aspects, some are worse in some aspects), most are worse. Being hanged in the town square has been horrific behavior since it was first thought of. Psychologically speaking psychology in a our prisons is a good thing, just the field needs to understand there is only so much which can be done to help. W5q1 fmri Of course it is better. As technology moves on, old tools are replaced by ever increasing levels of understanding and improved technological advancements many things become possible. The fmri is an upgrade from the original concept. I remember being in a medical museum once and looking at surgical tools from the 1700’s. Even though most of the tools in a modern OR are based on the same concepts, the improvements are phenomenal. Instead of just a blade, a variety of size scalpels are now standard. Instead of open air surgery where ever the person who knew more than the rest about basic medical care would suddenly become a surgeon. The only qualifications a few centuries back was the ability to not become sick on the patient. Now Different schools vie for the chance to become the top medical school in the nation, and or world. The stronger the pull toward the need to create better medical life saving tools the more the field will advance. Take NASA for an example of the opposite. NASA has had routing budget cuts for a wide variety of political reasons. So they are not able to maintain top levels in technology due to direct politically correct evidence the life saving procedures are not being properly credited. Consequently we are about to lose by choice for a second time any national ability to put man into space. Each shut down took 5 years off our edge. If you think about it in terms of micro-processing speeds. Micro-processors double in speed every 18 months. Think if Intel or Microsoft stopped dead in their tracks from development for 5 entire years? They would be literally 3 entire cycles behind, how is this a good idea? Medical advancements are good; your point about the fmri is a good one. But this very reason I have pushed in most of my posts to point out how great psychology could become. Psychology has to clean up its own backyard first, reorganize, then return to medical and science as an equal. Fmri and other measuring tools will help this reorganization. W5 q2 high tech 2 "With the increased emphasis on the area of
biological psychology, the field has increasingly began joining with other
fields such as medical, psychiatry, social work, information technology,
etc.” “What are some of the advantage of our field of
psychology joining with other fields?” “Are there any disadvantage?” “Thinking about what area of psychology you think
that you may go into in the future,” “which other fields do you believe you will work
with most?” W5 q2 high tech “T.R., you made some good points about the
biological aspect of the field.” Thanks. “With the increased emphasis on the area of
biological psychology, the field has increasingly began joining with other
fields such as medical, psychiatry, social work, information technology,
etc.” Yes it has. But despite the gestalt applications,
which after reading the chapters on gestalt, the problems with it are as
numerous as behaviorlist. I think behaviorlist should almost have a name
change to pediatrics. The tools work awesome for the lower brain issues, but
like hypnotism the strong mind/complicated mind the techniques will not work
well. The conscious mind and the autonomic nervous system will not allow it
to work. Hence the 3 months of effectiveness; but every time a problem is
pointed out solutions are possible. “What are some of the advantage of our field
of psychology joining with other fields?” The advantages are beyond measure as to how to
improve psychology. Take the best working aspects of physics and apply the
portions of psychology which work the best and are the best physics fit. “Are there any disadvantage?” More than the advantages. Every field has its own
special kinds of hierarchy never forget that modern academics come to us through
the Vatican guild system. Meanings that by default every field is
competitive. That competitive nature might not allow for an
easy transition between not only the merging of techniques but the acceptance
of the information, not to mention who gets the credit? In competitions
someone has to win, but according to the Greek model in which Rome and the
Vatican are organizationally based from the society structures have to have a
looser. Someone has to be “just the first looser, and come in second place.
That has to be dealt with extremely carefully. Why do you think I am at uop and not MIT. Simple
answer I need to get my ducks in a row first. Being outside of academics from
19 to 37 was for a bigger reason than just not liking academics. I needed to
step out of the entire box and look for clues to what I wanted to find out,
then come back with my vault full. Once I found them, the journey back has
meant finding a nice save place to reenter and be under the radar. Get my
academic ducks lined up and transfer later. Merging psychology and current academics has been
an uphill struggle since day one. It will continue to be an uphill struggle
until psychology has something of power. The “lightman” techniques are a
great start but they take someone uniquely trained. Not every PhD
psychologist can work as a lightman, but most md can work in a level one
trauma er. The area between the best of the best to the average skills is
still to far between in the area of psychology. The other fields will eat
psychology for lunch. How I know this as a matter of fact, my
grandmothers property boarders an acre of the south boarder of NMIMT. MIT,
Cal Tech, and NMIMT are considered equal in technology institutes. “Thinking about what area of psychology you
think that you may go into in the future,” First I want to work on my thesis, so I can
understand how all the various areas of psychology line up. What do they do
physics wise. Then I have a couple areas of research which
might come in very handy in the psychology realm. They also bring a very nice
application of advanced tech no other field has. Advanced but easy
mathematical models will give psychology a very nice edge when it comes to
entering science and medicine as an equal. “which other fields do you believe you
will work with most?” Physics, astrophysics, astronomy, chemistry, the
fields of em, and the most dangerous of all fields of academics. I have a 1.5 t hard drive half full of 2 decades
of ancient culture research. Just waiting for my academic dance card to fill
up 3 credit hours at a time. W5q1 droids These are not the droids you are looking for One problem I have with psychology is the notion everyone things the same way, towards the same concepts. The problem with this is the following. “These are not the droids you are looking for” is a great fictional application of the week minded. The weaker someone's mind the easier it is to sway their opinion. One of the ways this can be measured the best is by the simple application of politics. In this country we are a week away from another election cycle. If you come from a strictly physics point of view you know exactly what policies work and what will never work. But if you listen to some politicians you can just know they are attempting to sell their constituencies on “ignore reality, give me power. Give me power and I will give power back to you.” the problem with this kind of political speak is there is virtually no way in all of recorded western history to point to that is true. Few if any politicians who wanted power for the sake of power were interested in giving it back to the people who put them in charge. Cognitive, behavioralist, etc all have a problem when it comes to trying to find a middle ground statistically speaking as to how humans think. Trying to come up with a standardization will never work because much past the basic stages of thought, the personality becomes far too complicated to give generalizations. Some societies are drawn to tyrannical, some are drawn to the communal, and others are drawn to independence. While the internal structure of each might be similar; leader, leaders cabinet, friends and close relations to each person involved, the middle management of the country (from gov, business, to the family itself), lower management, to the individual worker. Each structure is similar, but beyond that the structures become complicated. What is allowable by each culture is at times radically different. Some have week and defenseless minds, easily swayable. Others have strong minds but week emotional stated, i.e. those are drawn to hate groups/religion groups. Others have strong emotions but week confidence. Add to that the “these are not the droids” and you get into areas which simply cannot be measured with a linear measurement stick. W5q1 CT or CAT scan and MRI CT Scan (Computerized
Axial Tomography or CAT Scan Magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), Since it has allowed researchers to know in a general sense
how general thoughts work. Love, hate, long term memory, short term memory, logical thinking,
creative thinking, etc all can be measured by way of triggering a patient
while being tested. To measure behaviors requires looking at the situation from a
point of view regarding how the individual processes thoughts. Through
thoughts is how we determine actions. The cat scan allows for tracking brain activity. Find out
where the blood is coursing to, through, or from. Blood is necessary for
things in the biological system to work. Tracking the blood allows
researchers to know what areas of the brain are being activated, i.e.
requiring blood. Blood carries; oxygen, fuel, and electrically charged
particles. IT carries away poo, and other electrically charged particles.
From chapter one we learned that the brain operates partially on the aspects of
moving different electrically charged particles around to “charge up” the
neurons to fire ie creating thoughts. But those thoughts partially need the change of blood to allow
everything to move around. Hence the measure thoughts, requires tracking the blood. CT and MRI measure blood flow and structures, a good image of
how someone processes thoughts is then possible W5q2 debrief A debrief can be more valuable than the study itself. The debrief at least in part came to psychology through intelligence work. having the operative fill out a report, but also go through an end of incident debrief; the debrief sometimes reveals layers of information the operative did not know, understand, or was aware of what happened. This debrief was added to psychology because just because someone says they are ok, does not mean they are. a trained mental health professional needs to be present at the end of a test because they need to give a solid assessment as to the mental and physical health of the individual involved. Coming off a hard test requires getting a medical checkup,
no reason why both physical and mental checkups should not be included in the
debrief. To ensure the subject leaves the experiment as close to healthy as
they arrived as possible. W5q1 Obedience As I child I grew up in a city rather strongly dominated by exclusively hard influence. Colorado springs Colorado is a town of extremely to the max contradictions. Religious zealots; Coloradans for family values, focus on the family, etc. Military 7 military bases Manitou springs, and “old” Colorado city. Sports Gold miners Cowboys The planes Pikes peak for bust And Denver not that far away. Part of the tourist crowd. Each has a long history. each has their strong points. Each has no intention of being second to anyone. But the truth of the matter is, depending on where a person aligns themselves depends strongly on what they can and cannot do in Colorado. Each faction is so strong and dominant that the pull to achieve from each one is beyond amazing. I spent my first 6 years in Tiffin, Ohio. The stark contrast between Tiffin and Colorado Springs is almost violent. Tiffin has 3 major small universities connected to it. Two in the city itself 1 about an hour away. To live in Colorado Springs requires an emphases on following one of the above cultures with an almost zealous zeal. It is not a present experience to not join one of the clicks and just live a life. The shun factor is very high. What is really interesting is Catholicism did not take a strong hold in the city, General William Palmer and his puritan/evangelical buddies fleeing from “perceived” religious persecution in the east choose to move out and create a “utopia” out west where they could practice their religion without being told no. Problem is Palmer being a railroad man, he created the North South railroad line and the cog railroad to bring minerals down from the mines around and behind the peak. He choose the location 80 miles south of Denver which unfortunately for him already had three town/cities in existence in the area. Manitou had been a native town for a thousand or more years. Colorado city was also a town of literally decades of history, built on top of a trading route which had existed for many thousands of years. Colorado city was a town and trading post, Manitou only a few miles nw was considered a holy city, similar to Sedona. Just east by a few thousand yards is the garden of the gods, an extremely sacred place. IN the experiment group think is present and the research subject is encouraged to go the limit. In cities similar the same situation applies. Do things according to how you are aligned socially and do not even think about crossing into other groups. Thesis dq “Christine, you reported that he must treat
others with respect and dignity. It made me think that we also want
people to have respect for our field of study.” The only way to get response in academics, math,
science, and such is to earn it. Academics was born in and from blood. When the Greek city states were conquered by
Rome, the libraries were sent to Rome. When Alexander did his thing and took all the
rebuilt Aegean libraries and put them in northern Egypt then added all the
ancient Canaanite libraries to that. When Rome conquered the city, most of the
contents were sent back to Rome also. Making the great library at Alexandria the roman
great library. Several points of that are provable, some are
not. They are speculation. But this is not a post to dive into hard core
historical facts, truth, speculation, and theories as to what might have
occurred during a battle. (battle records usually do not exist, the people
who know how to write are either not present or are being killed) The leaders
scribes are usually brought in after. So they can only be told what occurred.
Usually by those wanting to brag. So consequently the trust factor is lower. But the evidence is important. What the roman
empire was able to do technologically after is the strongest point. Their
technology did leap forward after Egypt was conquered. So the great libraries were in Rome, then moved
to Constantinople 300 c.e. 1300 they were moved back to Rome, launching the
renaissance. Why is this important. The field of psychology
came directly from the 1300s move back. If you recall from 500 – 1700s witches were still
being burned at the stake. Modern medicine came into existence during the
witch burning times. All first medical doctors were priests first, mds
second. Killing the medical infrastructure of the past to
replace it with the clergy, is how medicine gained its stranglehold on
knowledge and respond. Forget the past and you are doomed to repeat it. Well a huge amount of the past psychology has
forgotten. They are not pretty, politically correct, or even
nice. But they are facts which have to be put into perspective or continue to
be used against the field of psychology. Those little things from the past are partially
what holds it back. Adolf, witch burnings, the clergy mds, anti-Semitic
viewpoints, heresy laws (remember knowing what a pen looked like, writing, a
piece of paper not the bible, etc were all punishable by instant death. Till
not that long ago in civilization time, the puritans were not entirely nice
about suppression either; salem come to mind??) “Sometimes,
if a researcher wants something to happen so bad, they may make something
happen in the experiment.” Every
researcher finds some way of putting their own “junk” into experiments. There
are mathematical formulas for such. The variables are already included. I
have heard from many that using math in our experiments is shunned away from. Since
all aspects of science depend on mathematics to show results, and psychology
is not interested I think this is a perfect place to start to gain
credibility from all other aspects of science, medicine, and the world.
Unless we want to continue looking like glorified nurses. “Then
the study cannot be replicated, and the results are bogus.” Bogus
by default is not accurate. So if we know un-replicatable is present, how
best to go about fixing just that? What measuring tools are needed to make
the un-replicatable into something which can be replicated? Proper
identification of all the variables is the first step. Second
is a keen understanding of electro-magnetic. I
was in an astronomy class about 18 months ago. The teacher was a former NASA
astrophysicist. He told me c is absolutely consent, I told him there is no
possible way C is constant. He told me of a couple examples of where c is
dead on constantly. I cut his experiments apart with simple Occam’s razer
points. He
pointed out a laser can be shot through a laboratory created em sphere;
without distortion. I asked one simple question. “what em signature was the
sphere at” second question “what was the earths em signature at the
time/seconds the experiment was going on” third “what was the em signature of
the room the experiment was being conducted in” Refining
the em side of psychology is a area is air desperation need of. A human can
last 2 minutes without air, a week without water, x days without food, x days
without human contact. Air needs are obvious. So
since thoughts are electrical, the brain is an em sphere, and our bodies are
a slightly different em sphere. I think a good place to start is in the em
measuring tools. Measuring emotional states can provide very nice repeatable
evidence. “If
we continue to try to make Psychology a science,” Psychology
is a medicine equal to body medicine. Until that realization comes into stark
reality; psychology is hamstringing itself. Cutting its own Achilles tendon
just to be nasty to itself. Stand up and be who you are. No sense hiding
behind illusions of “please respect me, please give me credibility” medical
science killed to gain respect. Anything short of that kind of attitude is a
waist of time; no one gives credibility, it has to be earned. Last time I
checked academics is partially about combat. Fight the review board. Fight to
be published. Defend against vicious dissertation boards. Attack defend with
full academic muscle; all combat words. So do not go into a fight delusional
about personal skills. “then
we must hold our research to very high standards.” Physics
em models are just about as high a scientific standard as possible. Embracing
physics seems to be just about the only mathematical models in which will
work; for credibility, research, and of course repeatable lab work. More
later “What
do you think people's opinions of the field of psychology would be if
research was found to continually be non-replicable?” “What
are some ways that we can monitor ourselves in this field in order to ensure
that we hold ourselves to high standards?” W4q1 house md praise I would say the business model of where one chooses to work is a strong indicator as to what kind of praise to give them Some need to be told every few minutes how great a job they are doing. The other side of the spectrum is I need little if any praise; the awards, achievements, the money, etc are enough of praise. Boss does not need to praise me; the praise comes from a job well done. So each person needs to be assessed very differently. The house reference is based on; he constantly putts his employees through tests. Because he has to know what their boundaries are. Since every patient changes them a little, he has to keep checking their boundaries. Knowing exactly how a person will react to any given stimulation will give you the appropriate roadmap toward knowing how to praise them at what point. But that is mostly for upper end work. No need to know that much about someone unless the situation is life or death. But then again lots of different aspects of life are life and death, but they are not obviously life or death. W4q1 weekly summary What did I learn this week. Well for one more of psychology came directly out of the same cultures I saw in the previous weeks. Gestalt is almost entirely created and early formulations in Germany. One of the earliest was raised in a standard anti-Semitic neighborhood. Which is possibly one reason why gestalt and some aspets of psychology are not well understood. But gestalt is a great one for understanding the mindset of mass psychosis. What causes people to act like lemmings? A person will do all kinds of actions toward self preservation; but in a group running at a cliff at full tilt is almost an expected thing. I did not learn much more about conditioned responses, or operant conditioning then I learned before. I still see the problems with them. Although I did think of one small thing. Is it possible that as the first three months while the autonomic nervous system is being conditioned to respond slightly different, after that is it possible for some level of kind of Helsinki syndrome to start to work. The client wanting to have the perspective of the “medical professional” (making Helsinki much easier to get past the morals and integrity) and taking on the tools/therapy not in a true way but in a almost “nightingale” transference way. But instead of loving the therapist, the want to improve and have the therapist be proud of the progress? Is this at all possible? W4q1 review board Review boards are a very tricky subject. Since they hold a tremendous power over the entire department. Publish or perish the doorway to publishing is entirely in the hands of the review committee. Making them intensely powerful. What kind of people would be good on a review board. First and foremost the people who are absolutely not religious. “And yet it moves” is a great example of a review board gone chaotic. I think it would be stacked evenly between professionals, first year undergrads, upperclassmen, and the teachers at the school. But no matter who is on it, their ethics needs to be clear about the power they are being given. Ethics i.e. the predictive manner in which what a person will do can be either guessed at or their vote cannot be swayed easily by others. Even distributions of power allow for one just one or two philosophical groups to form and the board chooses based on positive or negative to aligned philosophies. A representative republic is designed similar to this. But when you have hard line philosophies in control, group think starts to take over and ideas are only accepted if the dominant philosophy gains power through the research. This should be taken intensely well under advisement as to who can deal with the power and not be corrupted by it. W4q1 what to know I can think of at least one area in which most people want less information on the psychological phenomenon than want more. I find it interesting that I have heard that “I want to know” from dozens. But when pushed what are the psychological aspects of when a person is told information they actually really did not actually want? Knowledge is power, I can tell you as a matter of hard facts that I can think of a dozen subjects which would change your view of the world, history, sociology, and a couple religions. But I keep that information to myself because metaphorically speaking I like breathing. I know I will face hard back lash “kill the messenger” for answering some key questions. Just because humans say they “what to know” does not make the reaction any less violent; in ratio to the altered view. Psychologically speaking the framework of the entire foundation of psychology comes to modern academics through the same sociological framework which created Adolf. Psychology, Adolf, Freud, and the Third Reich all came from the same cultural framework. That is a historical fact but a very bitter pill to swallow. Just because something is true does not mean it is an acceptable subject to let the masses know about it. W4q2
operant conditioning No
matter what anyone thinks operant conditioning is present
from just about the post birth action to our last breath. If we are not breathing a swat on the butt and we
start screaming is an operate conditioning. Which continues throughout life.
“kick my butt” “Paddle/swat the butt”, etc are just examples of ways children
are punished, reprimanded, a tool used to get a child back into reality, etc.
If a chiuld is out of their mind and reaction with pure off the hook behavior
at least in the west they are given a swat on the butt to get them back to
acting correctly in public or with proper manners. “The boss chewed my butt
off”, both literally and figuratively operant conditioning is used. Babies want to be changed, feed, held, etc so they
figure out what actions they need to do in order to get the parent to comply.
No matter what we think about operant
conditioning it is present from just after birth all the way to the end. So we might think that it is not good before x
months, but that leaves out the sociological rules of our society. W4q1 pets Based on your story; I do not think she is conditioned, you are. having been around pets most of my life I have seen the pattern with myself more times then I can count. A pet will act and react but the action is from the human side not the pets. Humans have conditioned responses to other animals as well. Skunk, we are only a predator to them so other than basic survival they have no conditioned responses to humans. We on the other hand, someone says SKUNK and the conditioned response is easy to measure. A 3 lbs creature can make a 140+ lbs creature act funny. They do not live long enough to tease us with the affects, but as a species we have a group conditioned response to them. Her actions are about getting your reactions to change. The point is not to get the water, but for the human to do certain actions in a pattern. Waiting patiently was the key. She sits their till you do the conditioned response. Pets mark humans as part of the pack in a dozen ways. Cheek rubbing for one, glands in the cheeks secrete a chemical which marks that human or that location as being in their territory. Ever seen a cat face rum something, they are spreading their marking sent. This conditioned response reminds me of the end of the first book of 42. The mice seams to react in a conditioned response but it was actually the mice testing the humans. W4q2 deception Deception is a concept impossible to get away from in human life. Almost all aspects of life deception is a strong portion. In my past I was very interested in studying electro-magnetic. But I chose to instead of working within the confines of the a lab to work within the confines of what previous cultures had to say on the subject. I found it fascinating that when I would research a given topic that the teachers were more and sometimes completely interested in the dogmatic aspects of the actions rather than the internal working portions of what they were doing. I tried my best back then to securely concentrate hard on the concepts of the physics of the sitaitons. What was moving, what was the thing which was actually in motion, and how did that think on a polarity level interact with everything else. Deception is something which cannot be ignored. Ignore something gives it and others power over you. I.e. the ability to manipulate you. Show too many tells and your ability to be controlled goes up in proportion. In psychological tests. Ignoring any aspect of psychology by default creates in accurate testing parameters. I am reminded of Lorendoes Oil, were the previous to the oil tests all the therapies were designed from the I think 35 chromosome (extremely late in the sequence), but the previous tests were virtually ignoring all the previous 34 out of whatever reason. But the higher up the sequence closer to the 0 mark and all the stuff from the point of ignoring back counts toward the final outcome. The more sequences are ignored the worse the predictable outcomes will be. I think the whole concept of deception in laboratory testing starts far too low in the human reaction sequence chain to have an understanding of what is actually going on. Sure short term fight or flight autonomic nervous system issues are an of course easy to measure. But the long term stuff from what I can tell is being almost completely ignored. Who exactly is deceiving who? Where does the deception start? Sociologically speaking I can think of a hundred subject areas in which the cultural autonomic reactions are so strong the society is not aware of them. Most of that stuff is being almost completely ignored. W4q2 ethics Ethics is one monster difficult aspect of psychological research to tackle. What are the boundaries to a person. What is ok to make them go through. When Watson did his experiments on rats, surgically removing their senses one by one to prove with and without senses the rats did the same motions. This brings me to the ideas of the primitive child. Some “mengala” and others have taken new borns and separated them out from social structure and put them in laboratories. For monkeys it was cruel for humans it is beyond imagination. Ethics is a difficult one to measure since some aspects of culture are ok to some and those same actions are flat out horric to others. So who is to say what experiment will and will not be ethical to who. Trying to find a human norm is even harder when multi-generations of conditioned responses start to place some of those concepts into the dna. Just recently I have had an encounter with a religious group from a foreign country (do not bother you will never guess) and a great deal of their actions are straight out of their thousands of years ago play book culture. Some aspects 21st century others are straight out of the stone age. IF you put a person from culture a through the same passes as person b, depending on how radically different their culturally conditioned responses are will shape the test results. So ethically how do all these variables apply to any psychological test? Thoughts? W4q1 behavioralism What are
the similarities between classical conditioning, as described by John B.
Watson, and operant conditioning, as defined by B. F. Skinner? What are the
differences? Give a personal example of each type of conditioning. Classical
conditioning is based on the concepts of Pavlov and this dogs autonomic
nervous system reactions. When
Pavlov came to America in the 20s Watson was fascinated by the Behavioralists
concept. Being a man naturally drawn to laboratory work, experimenting with
dogs provided a valuable tool for laboratory work. “Watson
(a)
firmly assigned psychology to the natural sciences, (b)
articulated a clear set of goals for a scientific psychology, (c)
rejected the introspection-based research of his peers, (d)
fully accepted an evolutionary model of behavior. Many
of the basic tenants of Behavioralism can be found in the writings of Frances
Bacon. Some 200 years before psyhcolgoy would be decrypted from philosophy. Classical
conditioning; my mother is an artist. No matter what career path she has been
on in your life. From her first job to her current hobbie; they have all had
something to do with the artistic field. She retired as a level d special ed
teacher about 2 years ago, since she has taken almost all her time and
devoted it to doing all the artistic projects she always wanted to do. She
has herself an almost cottage industry out of arts and crafts. Little if
anything can keep her away from expressing her artistic side. Even in jobs
where art was not wanted, needed, desired, and discouraged she somehow
managed to find an artistic aspect. Conditioned
response; in every social group a pecking order insues as to how is on top
and who is on the bottom, counting everyone inbetween. Whence the pecking
order is established and each person is assigned a roll, breaking that mold
is extremely hard. People in a community are conditioned to response in
specific ways; the electrical test points strongly to this. Week 3 What did I learn this week. Cognitive Dissonance is an impressively interesting subject. Much more sociological then it is individual based. I was able to add this definition to a previous paper on Adolf. I also found the connection between Cognitive Dissonance and the electro-magnetic echo effect to be absolutely fascinating. How the events of both Napoleon and Adolf were in the sociological works hundreds of years before. The correlation between the two can be explored for years. Both were born and nationalities of different countries and created their own country out of the ashes of previous cultures ruins. I learned this week just how massive the differing aspects of psychology are both similar and polar from each other. It is simply amazing. So close but yet so far, all depending on what specific aspect of who’s theories is being examined at what point as to the relativity of each in comparison to others. I learned how much of the decryption of psychology from philosophy occurred at exactly the same time and place that Adolf, Freud, adler, jung, and the scope of modern western culture all came out of the same place, time, and social construct. James and Kalkin being Americans who were rather heavily influenced by the same culture the previous 4 were. The psychological laboratories were of German design. It is almost like without the holy roman empire collapsting and the chaos which ensued after and the intellectual freedoms from both political infrastructure and religious infrastructure the old philosophies and the psychologies within had a chance to raise out of the ashes. Of course the area would have a much better reputation if the little quarter Jew boy did not manipulate a weakness in the political system and “absolute power corrupts absolutely” add to that questioning sexual allegiances and syphilis combined to PC erase where the advances came from the next century. But I also think that a clear distinction between the people and one tyrant needs to be drawn. He wanted to be the next holy roman emperor but the political system at the time did not allow it, so through a decade of syphilis clouded mind emperor of the world was an acceptable second step. Why is this important, at least 7 of the major early psychologists were raised in the same exact culture in which he was. Three have been credited with being the founders of the field. Those three their connections to Germany cannot be any clearer. German; laboratories, philosophical writing, hiring nations, and of course spending months and years in Germany studying all point to the same culture interesting outcomes. There is also a third portion which also came from exactly the same time, place, and sociological infrastructure in which James was absolutely fascinated. What an amazing week of information. W3q2 structuralism 2 Another
point in that same line is. My wife and I were having a chat about Freud this
morning. We were discussing that as generations occur, one moving into the next
the mob mentality of the dominant paradigm shifts. Sometimes radically,
sometimes just a bit. This
move from one philosophy to another has allowed things like “blazing saddles”
to be filmed and a major box office hit when it was made but in the 90 and 10
there is literally no way that film could be made. LSD
was so popular in the late 50s and 60s that few Americans did not experiment
with it. Today that kind of group think has shifted to religion. The last two
presidential elections were so much about the faith of the dudes running that
some other platforms of profound importance were almost radically ignored. I give an example. China if when and or if
they pass us in space technology could easily state “ok world china owns from
say 150 miles and up. We own it all, serious and violent reactions will occur
if any nation sends anything into those areas of Chinese control. He who has
the highest technology wins. THe problem is Americans are starting to become
so individual greedy that matching funding with our space technology with
China’s is almost a laughable concern. But right now religion and lower my
taxes is the only thing truly important in all those TV adds for the last say
8 months. The direct imminent threat from china is almost a “well I do not
care about any of that, I just want to make sure I have what I want”. While
American troops right now are taking hostile fire from at least three major
enemies. Two immanent threats, Structuralism is preventing clear thinking
about hard target threats.
W3q2 structuralism 3 There is a truly dangerous psychological phenomenon happening which is causing the emphases on the religious zealots doing the power plays they are. Self fulfilling prophecy. Doomsday religions the leaders will in some level of subconscious will start creating actions which they hope will bring about x portion of their dogmatic beliefs. The ends justify the means, is a strong motivating factor behind that concept as well. Thoughts? W3q2 structuralism My thoughts are that most Americans think they are
independent and or Functionalism,
but in truth every aspect of an individuals life is strongly influenced by
the culture in which they choose to live in. George
Washington was strongly against any kind of political party system. Seeing how
badly the parties in England failed to actually produce beneficial results.
This lasted for the length of his presidency. From Adam’s to now Americans
and most of western culture align themselves with specific ideals-group
philosophy and stick to it. It takes
group think in order to achieve some goals; “the needs of the many out weight
the needs of the one”. Every company, corporations, political party,
movement, and group depend on using that rule applied to every member in
various %s to function. Entertainment
from the Greeks to now has always emphasized the hero’s are those that can
crank their % way up and “no matter what it takes, I will achieve x goal”. Individuality
is a great goal, but unless the person spends a tremendous amount of time
deprogramming the family, neighborhood, community, city, etc conditioned
responses out of their psychy the person has no choice but to operate from a
specific set of rules which govern strongly what choices are ok and what
choices are unacceptable. Thomas Jefferson, the dude who wrote the first document and helped write the second, mainly did it because he wanted above all else to be able to tell the king/ruler/leader/president off whenever he felt like it and not worry about negative response. To criticize was his primary motivation. Fighting with everything he had to be able to tell someone just how much of a jerk they were, and not be jailed because of it. What I find the most interesting and partial proof for group think, controls most actions is this, the political party strongly based on his ideals hates being criticized. Threatening violence against anyone who criticizes them, but screams at the top of their lungs constantly about their need to criticize. The irony is awe-inspiring. W3q1 a equals b “I wonder how we can explain this somewhat
complicated concept to them,” [reference private post week 1] Simple, what is
your most outrageous dream? Well to be able to achieve that goal x y and z
actions are required. If you are not willing to do that sequence of actions
the outcome is not favorable to manifesting that dream. So you have A action
but B dreams. The contradiction between the two is were some of your issues
live. “in order to point out that they are dealing with
this issue.” Truth, but carefully choreographed truth is the
only way to go. Cleints put their lives in therapists hands very similar to a
child with a parent. Can I have a cookie, the parents job is to give a cookie
only at appropriate dosage at appropriate times. “Do you think that awareness about this concept
can help people avoid dealing with this issue,” That depends on the skills of the counselor. The
better the counselor the easier the chess game. “or is this inevitable in our society?” Navy seal training versus a rent a cop. The
easiest upper end and the easiest lower end of the same job. Each person is
different, each person has to be treated differently . W3q1 Cognitive dissonance freud is what is wrong on many layers with freud's theory. In my last class I wrote a paper on adolf and everything I wrote in that paper also directly points to what is wrong with freud's theories. Although during the time everyone in eastern and central europe understood the situation involved with all the competing cultural issues, the time being 1820-1910. Take those issues into account and the cognitive dissonance leads straight into the issues with freud's theory and give the road map as to why adolf was able to exploit the population the way he did. The population of eastern and central Europe was so pulled it was almost no culture at all. I can think of at least 100 differing cultures all vying for control over a very small piece of the earth. From eastern france to the urals is not that big. From Northern Greece (thrasian) to the Baltic is a very small area. But Russia, Greece, Italy, Burbors, gypsies, Jews, Austrians, bohemians, huns, and a few hundred others were all fighting for control over the area. The answer to why is hiding very deeply in the annals of ancient history. The subject of which is not acceptable in most academic circles. Sufficient to say without a central cultural identity the people of an area become dangerous and feel betrayed by their own culture and traitors for aligning with outside cultures. Lots of anger, but no relief since an upstart culture would have literally no way of fighting off other outside cultures with monstrously huge armies at the ready back home. This is the environment in which both men were born and both men the conflicts shaped their lifes mission. W3q1 rapport Rapport is a difficult thing to build with a client. It is almost impossible to create a rapport, and not show your own emotional self. The problem is building a rapport unless the counselor is highly proficient with strategies and can turn the direction of a chat (manipulation) away from the client pushing the counselors buttons and toward client health; building a rapport becomes a game of dominance. “The counselor learned not to ever tell that in a session.” A in field report form a professional counselor. The game of manipulation and playing chess being moves ahead of the client. There is nothing non manipulative about deceit, but when deceit helps the client in the clinical setting of therapist client the ends justify the means. I am not a fan of building a relationship with a client where I open up about myself. Little about me is any of their business. “I know clients go back and tell other clients how their counselors are in sessions.” Therapists need to be a dozen or more steps ahead of clients to ensure how the client will react to the world outside of a 50 minute interaction one, twice, four times a month. In reading through many differing reports on the subjects, watching documentaries on addictions, abuse, etc I can say this with some authority. The clients who want a counselor to sympathize to be a recovering addict is a very passive aggressive way to saying I might want to get better but only if you join me down in the muck. On the other hand I want company down in this muck so I will see if I can find a counselor who I can mess with and bring them down into the muck with me. Most of the previous is subconscious. A client suffering severe emotional abuse a large part of their autonomic nervous system is still right back their in the moment the abuse was taking place. Hence the subconscious aspects of a clients actions. Yes a small portion is based on the concepts of a desire to get better, but the sociological embarrassment of “I am the only one”, steps in and takes control from there. The 100th monkey neuropathology is one reference. Treatment is only possible if the client is tricked into believing the therapist is down in the muck and shows them the way out. Removing the shame is oftentimes the first successful tool in healing. W3q1 cognitive dissonance In my experiences cognitive dissonance is a standard thing for most cultures. Whenever a culture sets out rules, there are contradictions which much be cognitively changed in order to not live a polar existence. The pain of cognitive dissonance is what has driven many to seek mind altering drugs, to escape for a segment of time the disconnect between two differing aspects of life. I remember a recent episode of “lie to me”, where one specific patient told the doctor she suffered from x mental illness. But in fact she was only hiding from a killer. Afraid to go to the police for other personal reasons. So lightman came into the hospital to talk to her and find out who both men were and why she was in the imminent danger she was in. She was sitting in a corner were she could see everything around her; doors, windows, all the other patients, and of course behind locked doors with armed security. Why did she do this, because the reality of the situation forced her to take drastic actions because she was all alone in her struggle for survival. It is amazing to think just how much cognitive dissonance is a part of everyone’s everyday lives. It is easily to see, just ask someone a question about the B portion of their life. They will almost by default react with fight or flight. The strongest the negative aspects of B (Newton law 3) ratio will be. Ever ask someone a seemingly innocent ques4iton and they jump down your throat? Same thing. You touched on their B, the stuff they do not want to think about but do anyway. Watch the body it tells the truth every time, the mouth cannot help but protect the A thoughts. The autonomic nervous system protect the A thoughts from the B thoughts, actions, and deeds. W3q1 religion I am now very sorry I brought the subject up. No matter what occurs from here. The conversation will be dominated by religion, not academics. I either have to agree with you more than say 80% or I have to shut up. Because statistically speaking if a writer uses the same word say 4 times in one short reply that word is the emphases of the situation. That one word being a religious word strongly points to the writer will not tolerate much criticism. Much about 20% is within reasonable limits. Some are less than 3% others are as much as 20%. Which leaves 80% of “do not question my authority.” No matter what you are the only person who has your specific point of view. So because it is about your point of view, it is you who is the authority. Leaving me and everyone else in the class to either be on your side or be against; neutrality in religious chats are not generally acceptable. Two and a half weeks is not long enough to develop more than a rudimentary understanding of someone triple for cyber only. I am sorry I brought it up because I either have to agree with you or drop the subject. I am not of fan of that. Makes me feel like Galileo, Copernicus, the several million witches burned at the stake, or I am talking to a fanatical Muslim. Not a comfortable position. How many scholars have been silenced due to religious persecution? Be very careful about making your point, sometimes subtle is better than four shots from a cannon. If you are curious, the answer is I have been silenced more times in this class than I can count. I am polite enough to leave my non academic opinions to myself. W3q1 Freud change equation My thoughts on Freud’s works are from my last class. My opinion on the subject has not change in the 1000 pages of textbooks I have read or in my third week in my second class. Here is actually the start of my hypothesis as to how to fix psychology came from. Freud’s theory is a simple algebra equation. A conscious mind actions, + B subconscious mind actions, = C the outcome of both. This is great but it leaves to much out. First Freud was a Jew living in Austria. I have nothing against Jews, but the times he lived did; almost beyond measure. The environment in which Freud lived make it too difficult for him or any rational or critical thinking person to see clearly the horrific environment they all had to live in. Without perspective some of these ideas had no ability to form correctly. They have to be run through a decryption process. The 1800’s eastern and central European cultures were so bad sociologically speaking that I am surprised anyone or anything came out of them sane. Some 20 cultures were all jockeying for political power; each used a different variable to attack/blame the problems on. A large number also had strong anti-Semitic leanings. Something most of them shared. But to Americans the concept of anti-Semitism almost has no equal. It is beyond worse than the n word now or when the n word was first used. That is only a small comparison, but not very accurate. A slightly closer one would be how some whites view Hispanics; but this is still not a close enough comparison. Not a close enough comparison x 2 combined still does not recreate the sociological infrastructure of the happenings in Europe in the late 1700-1800s. The events of the 1900’s were an obvious conclusion to the fervor. Freud was born in the end of that fervor. So obviously his perspective would be skewed. Combine his cultural ptsd and the unfortunate pharmaceuticals available at the time and the decryption process is almost more than can be done. But the decryption of the value of what Freud had to say is obvious. Just takes using the correct decryption algorithm to bring clarity his theories. Instead of using a simply 2 variables with an =x the equation needs to be instead a 4 part with and =x. A the societies conscious + B the societies unconscious actions, + C individual conscious mind actions, + D individual subconscious mind actions, = E the outcome of all four. That fixes the problem. Of course things get a bit more complicated in the math when the equation has to be expanded to be A1 A2 etc 1 for every specific culture referenced. Since the number of cultures changes per question the decryption algorithm starts to become complicated. Penicillin is a great drug for infections. But do not bother giving it to a cancer patient. Podiatry is a great medical field; but do not waist time having a podiatrist treat a double lower quadrant amputee. The field of ob is great and needs field of medicine; a complete waist to time on a male patient. Pediatrics is great for x patient (obvious), but close to a complete waste of time for geriatrics. Some cross over exists, but not enough to justify the referral. I can go on. But you get the point. No field is better or worse than any other. Instead of psychologists competing for dominance, which has been a 150 year almost complete waste of time. How about reorganize. Which I am working on a paper of that hypothesis. Medical science is divided into major categories. Those categories need to be mirrored in psychology. Like to like. Laboratory work, clinical applications, patient care, philosophical discussions(philosophy), etc. Lab is not better or worse than the philosophical applications but it defiantly is a waist to try and say philosophy/ob is better than lab/medical research. Each has their own place in the tree. Each has answers to their own specific questions. Each question of health having its own 200,000 degrees of physics. 360 a standard compass. Now take another and from 0 put 0, and 180 on 180, put one horizontal and one veritical. 360 degrees on the side, 360 degrees vertical. 360*360=200,000. Every point has any number of different aspects. I reference the elephant. All depends on what angle is under examination. W3q1 science variables I do not think psychology has reached the level or will ever reach the level of a science. Too many missing variable. However medical science is not considered a science either, to many variable. But with enough people achieving greater levels of health with seeing a md when something is wrong, the gap between science and I am better builds the credibility from which hard science has to bow to. Hard science medical science and psychology will never qualify for. Our understanding of the mind, electo-magnetic, mathematical model, sociological infrastructure, etc are all too limited to actually allow both fields to truly ever become hard sciences. But once a problem has been identified, solutions are easier to find. I was watching rubicon Sunday. The FBI was only interested in results, the analysts were only interested in why. The why the antagonist was doing what he was doing showed the way. Now intelligence fields and medicine are very closely related. No anesthetic like success. Reorganize the field to more closely resemble that of medicine and the results will statistically speaking create more healthier patients then the current directives. Psychology has numerous “painfully” unused tools. Those tools if used correctly can change the flow chart of current science. But only with the anesthetic of success. 140 years of research, we know x treatment when applied to x disorder works. Z to z, y to y. We know this, we can prove it. But we also know applying z treatments to all a-z disorders will not and will never work. We have nothing but proof for the shortcomings, of y treatments not working with all the other disorders; but it works great for y disorder. W2 What did I learn this week, I learned every innovation in psychology has come at the expense of some other discipline within the realm of psychology. Whoever is in charge sets the research, behavioralism, evolutionism, cognitive, etc. Major career ending arguments have been the result an overwhelming % of the time. Psychology has not found its niche yet after more than 130 years of academic existence. But like any good identification of problems, solutions, are easier to find. I learned how interesting a classroom can be with a facilitator who uses this specific technique. From all my previous classes the now two classes in psychology have been almost completely opposite experiences. I am used to hundreds of posts a week, some really great discussions have occurred. Some I just read and found interesting others I engaged in. I recall one class were about 7 of us started a discussion about bio-fuels which lasted from week three to the last day of week 9. This was of course at Axia, the blocks are 9 weeks; consisting of 2 classes at the same time. I think we wrote some 90 pages of responses, some really great ideas were battered back and forth. But in this class we are looking at the very end of week 2 and a totally of about 250 total posts. This is something I will have to get very used to. I like the discussions. The ideas, the banter, but if the environment of psychology is not geared that way, well I will just have to sit back and observe the flow and find where I fit in. Other than constantly pointing out the cracks in the foundation. I am enjoying finding the cracks to fix them, but my posts might not be appreciated others. In our textbook on about page 218, I did find the argument between the scholars fascinating. Both argued their point so hard they were both fired. I seem to remember several of those kinds of stories in both psychology 300 and this class. Which is what actually clued me in that the situation was built in the sand. Arguing about positions when the emphasis needs to be on the organization. I started work on a paper about how to change around the basic dynamics of psychology. I copied the glossary and such over and am working on figuring out what goes where. As in medicine disorders are grouped together based on physics i.e. what it does. So working from the gestalt format of seeing the big picture to see how to rearrange the puzzle pieces. I learned a great deal this week. W2q2 diversity That article sounds interesting. If you can find it, I would be very interested in reading it. I live in Central Florida, which is one of the most unusual areas to live on the planet. The stark contrast between all the various groups is striking to anyone who sees it. The town of Kissimmee is at the heart of the issue. A town of only few 10s of thousands in the city proper but more than a million in the country. Of course that million are directly connected to Walt Disney World. The town of Kissimmee for some strange reason stretches some 2.5 hours from one side to the other of infrastructure but the actual town itself is only a dozen blocks in each directly. At least 100,000 guests are in the parks at any one given time, with several million in the busy times. Not including the 75,000 employees. The groupings are strange to witness. W2q2 monkey issolation My first thoughts on the subject are the crimes committed by the mentally ill should be in a different category all together from the clear thinking. Now their is a difference between a psychopath and someone mentally ill. Taking both the legal and the moral arguments out of the equation leads to a stark contrast. I recall a vido where a monkey was kept in a cage all by himself from shortly after birth all the way up till death. The monkey sat in a corner and rocked back and forth except to sleep and eat. The monkey eventually going insane and the body shut down. Your description, what I have watched on msnbs lock up series and those psychological tests; physics wise are duplicate down the line. I think most seeing the monkey would say beyond doubt that is cruel and unusual punishment. But what is crueler; hard core isolation 24*7*365, letting that person out into the public where there is no way they have even the coping skills of a 5 years old but the insistence and strength of “Arnold?”(strength of not coping skills) of course pure frustration at not being treated correctly or even in the neighborhood of correctly will drive the autonomic nervous system to take what is needed. Taking in western culture has been frowned upon by most layers since the Greeks took over from the Dorian’s. Property, procreation, nourishment, pleasure, etc are very easy to cross lines with. Start crossing lines and the conditioned responses start making decisions which can only end in very nasty outcomes. Once a conditioned response starts as a child, without proper care that conditioned response will lead to negative behavior with only the autonomic nervous system working. Of course they all need advocates. Even the “Garland 'The Marietta Mangler' Greene” of the DOC. He is the closest archetype character who was mentally ill, not just a thrill seeking psychopath. W2q2 asops Asops fable 4 cow brothers and one wolf, safety in numbers. United we stand divided we fall. Groups are a way of allowing and ensuring there is safety in numbers. WE can travel to a wide variety of places and find those that are in similar groups as to those at home. If someplace foreign, nationalities draw closer together. This might be one of the problems in the current configuration of psychology. Each group is trying to have dominance over the other groups, when instead of being top dog refocus efforts into the gestalt concept, exactly the same as medical science. In every portion of the biological realm, almost all creatures have some kind of community gathering. Be it age, sex, color, ecosystem preference, etc. Few if any choose almost completely solitary lives, those that do have specific rules as to when to draw together for specific survival purposes. Groups are just a part of biological existence. W2q1 cops trust A measure of trust. What was missing was a measure of solid trust. You mentioned he refused. What was his history and why did he refuse? If he was that sick, why did it get that bad? He knew something was wrong, but refused treatment. In his mind the DOC was beyond worse than anything which might be killing him. I would say his symptoms were far more drastic and much longer term than is currently understood. Strong people get good at creating coping mechanism. Someone able to spend decades doing hard time by default are strong. So what was he hiding for a long time till the coping mechanism no longer worked and killed him? What experiences with the DOC created the conditioned response the authorities were less trustable then the thing killing him. This is not an indictment of the DOC, it is looking at the evidence presented and examining each of the individual aspects of the motions involved trying to find the pathology. People are afraid of the police for a wide variety of reasons and reactions to same. But the treatment especially for the mentally ill has almost no measure of trust. The number of ill * the number who agree to treatment * the number in prison * the number who have a chance at getting better. Only someone capable of rational thought will think they will be the 1 in the billion who can achieve. The illnesses and treatments for said are missing evidence, data, clinical examinations, and a base understanding of the situation involved. Treatment, goes back to my same point. Fix the organization, gain some trust, and start showing effective recovery. No anesthetic like success. They refuse treatment because of the adverse affects from the treatment. The cure is not better than the disease. Instead of fighting against it, the approach is what is wrong. Pikes Peak Colorado, only extremely experienced rock climbers can scale the north face. But anyone can walk up the south. No amount of force will make someone who has no trust scale the north face. Change the equation and start getting patients better. Will ripple effect out to the rest of the population. Billions of dollars are spent housing the mentally ill in prisons, spend some of that on changing approach from the north face to the south and people will start getting better. Some cannot be fixed, but more will be fixed if the approach was changed. W2q1 mengala I have a problem with your answer to the point of which I
must say. The precident for that exact point of view lead to mass
sterilizations not all that long ago in American prisons and mental
hospitals. The grey areas allow for the prejudice to start making bold and
Mengala desitions about those under their control. Power corrupts, absolute
power corrupts absolutely. W2q1 hypothesis Ok, this is starting to turn from an random idea
(of which I have many) to a hypothesis with some meat to it. “Many therapists have a set theoretical position
which they use for every client they treat, regardless of the disorder.” Each therapist has a specialties. Same exactly as
each specialties in body medicine. Is it s good idea for an oncologist to
treat a podiatry problem? Not generally. In some cases it would be a
horrifically bad idea. “For example, is a psychologist was a
cognitive-behavioral therapist, then they would use that theory to
conceptualize each client through (depression, anxiety, drug abuse,
personality disorder, adjustment disorder, etc.) A perfect example of why each form of therapists
discipline can easily be categorized as a “board certified specialty in x
field” but show a hands who wants to do a random almost Russian roulette with
I have x problem deeply buried behind lots of y actions. The y actions are
great to start with the psychological equivalent of a GP (General
Practitioner), once the ball starts rolling the GP psychologist then needs
refer the patient to a specialist in x problem. A GP can and has some
experience dealing with all kinds of medicine. They had to, they rotate
through all the various fields to gain at least a little bit of knowledge in
the subject. But 6 months of experience 10 years ago is not the same as a
person who is board certified in the field with 10 solid years of
concentrated experience. Give me the second option every time and twice on
Sunday, thank you. That simple organizational change is the first
step in psychology gaining credibility of being = to body medical doctors. “They just switch the target behaviors the client
is working on, but use the same theory in treatment.” Physics tells us this is not a good thing to do
ever. Use the proper tool for the proper job. Using a Philips head
screwdriver to hammer in a nail is possible but not effective. Clearly
identify each therapist with their distinction, so the patient does not feel
like they are playing Russian roulette. It takes a while and a dozen
therapists for some to “find the right fit.” Well that whole process costs
the psychological field a strong measure of trust with anyone going through
it. Only those clients determined will continue after one or two therapists.
Good Will Hunting would be a great example, each shrink had a different
specialty. But unless you have read a few thousand pages of mental medical
books or have spent months and or years moving from therapist to therapist,
the patient has littlerly no way of knowing that. “Do you think that this is a good idea for a
therapist to be grounded in a specific theory through which they
conceptualize their clients?” For the last say 200 years in body medicine since
it has worked great for them. In a workshop specialization works great for
the last 3000 years. Now exceptions to the rule are an of course. Some
machinists with 20 or 40 years of experience are equally good with every
machine in a foundry, but doing the math. One master craftsman is not an easy
find. Plus of the fact that even a master craftsman is not an architect,
landscape engineer, city planner, or electrician. Specializations are in all
over fields but psychology. “or do you think it should change depending on
the client?” Unless a person is really good it is not possible
for someone with 10 years of experience with say behaviorlism to switch
techniques and work from one of the dozen other fields. This will only have
as much % of success as the skill of the therapists % of being able to switch
transmission. In other words unless you have a polymath do not attempt with
any good % of success. Last time I checked living in just America right
now 300 + million people how many polymaths are living? There are orphan
diseases with only say 9 patients total with better odds of catching that
disease than the total number of currently living polymaths. Ray Kurswiel
would be close to the only one I can think of, he is great and highly skilled
at about a dozen different fields. Historical examples of renaissance
polymaths (yes redundant, but making a point) Leonardo Da Vinci,
Michelangelo, etc some rather large shoes to fill. W2q1 civilization collapse A society does have rules for proper applications of physics. For every action an equal and opposite reaction is a hard fact of life. A society is mainly judged on two primary measuring sticks. 1 there is a list of I think 10 to 15 categories in which the “impending civilization collapse” is measured. The closer to one the farther away, the closer to 10 very close to civilization collapse. Above 11 and check your watch for an invasion and or internal revolt. The mentally ill and the physically disabled are (despite the opinions of some) the weakest members of a society. Children are sometimes considered weak but they have parents, and dozens of different organizations designed to ensure they are not treated as a whole that badly. CPS stands out the strongest. The human society helps. But for the mentally and physically disabled, this country has failed in almost every aspect. It is the responsibility of every citizen of a group to ensure the weakest links in the civilization chain are taken care of, the stronger the weak the more stable the strong. The problem in the west and in a full suite of spades America, the country is a little too Greek with the whole “pick yourself up by your bootstraps”, get off your lazy but and get to work. There is something you can do. The current rules for someone with physical issues is SSI, if you have not paid into the system you get 250$ of supplemental income. Not a penny more. The only way that income level is sufficient is either a tent or someplace so rural the income matches what others can pay as well. Segregation of the worst kind. Since if your body does not work well enough to hold down a job, you are pushed around like a rag doll. Living off the whims of everyone stronger. You have almost no voice when it comes to defending yourself. State nursing homes are measured by the layer of he)) they are located on (usually someplace between the 3 and the 20. Sign me up for that. The second is how each society deals with its weakest members is the strength of the whole. A society might have the best military around, but if the weakest members are “on their own.” the civilization has to face some hard physics options at some equal and opposite reaction. Who is responsible, the middle and strong need to shore up their own weak flank. Instead of seeing them as drains on the economy, everyone has a talent. Talents need to be fostered and nourished. It is not a waste of money to sufficiently care for the weak. W2q1 mental health courts With the development of mental health courts (and even drug courts) we are moving a long way (in the right direction) in how we are treating and dealing with our mentally ill population who violate the law. Mental health courts are diversion programs that help try to keep mentally ill people out of prison and jail. I think that these types of courts that provide service such as treatment, require the people to medication complaint, treatment compliant, and do follow-up services with them are a step in the right direction of dealing with our mentally ill in a humane way. However, to my knowledge, mental health courts are currently only working at the county level. Our state and federal systems have not adopted this type of program at this time. Do you think that it would work in our state and federal system? Would it save us money in the long run to treat people and divert them from prison, or just throw them in prison and keep them there? W2q1 reagan I was around before Reagan closed the mental health hospitals in a very short term gain in cutting the budget. I was also around as an adult when the mentally ill who cannot function in normal society started to commit crimes or self medicate and started to fill up prisons. It was a nasty and viscous cycle of cut here and ignore when the same issue is more expensive there. But easier to ignore. Now I am not saying the mental lock down facilities of my youth were good. I am saying what is the difference between a mental lock down facility and a prison? A lock and an armed guard are the same thing applied to x and y. But in a prison the population can feel safer knowing a large number of scary people will never get out of jail. Which is in itself completely incorrect, the prisons are so overcrowded a revolving door policy is in effect in most states. Lesser crimes are let out almost immediately because there is simply no room at the inn. Right now the political climate in this country is so divided amongst not the population but amongst small extremely loud splinter groups who in numbers represent less than 23% of the 300 million Americans on both sides. 23% are screaming so loud and are so outraged they simply cannot hear what is being discussed and needed by the other 77% of Americans. (I love physics, I could care less about any political party. I only care about the basic algebra of A action is done B reaction is done, C what is the real outcome. Sounds simple but the equation saves a lot of useless time in arguments, which are almost completely emotion based instead of real world issues. I do not recall a 3 year old giving a good argument about anything, unabridged emotion and a 3 year old what is the difference? Or worse an unbridled emotional 9 year old and a psychopath, even less difference. What a talking head sometime you tell me what the difference between them and a 3 to 9 year old is. What is the difference in physics; a 3 year old cannot hurt you a 9 year old can, infliction of real violence to make sure of attention. Debates and violence do not go together.) Turning the state laws of mental courts will not happen till the current political the 23% of zealots run out of steam and shrink back to their churches. All movements end. Will it ends reality will not come back to politics, and no federal regulations as to mental courts can take place. There is no outrage in changing prisons, the mentally ill, or spending more money. All change shifts the balance of money, there is no interest in shifting anything from the zealots right now. A zealot is someone who screams till everyone agrees with them, or becomes violent to make sure their opinion becomes law. They are incapable of changing the subject. Physics is a wonderful evening tool. Find the truth about something track the physics. W2q1 mental issues and genes The answer to this is kind of like the answer to any medical doctor when the word cancer entered the lexicon. Back then their was one kind of cancer and it was a death sentence. Since we know now the numbers of cancers are almost incalculatable. The premise to this question is almost worse than the early definition of cancer. How do I know this, well my first wife died of cervical and ovarian cancer. She made numerous comments about being abused x way as a child. My second wife also suffered from abuse, this time the information was much more substantial (my wife was not his only identified victim). Recently my nephew started to exhibit the same personality traits of his x relative. The nephew and the abuser were not alive at the same time, no crossover. But my wife’s 4th child also shows signs of the a similar personality traits but preventative measures when he was a child helped curve his interests as an adult. He is not an abuser, he has a violent temper. I would say the answer is much more complicated than just is it in the 501’s, learned, repeat cycle, or something else. This is another good example of who mental medicine needs to take a serious look at how to reorganize and catch up to the 21st century. Right now in academics, medicine, and western culture psychology ranks under medical science and slightly above and slightly below a nurse capable of prescribing meds. We need to change that quickly. Psychology is as complicated as body medicine. It might require additional years of schooling, and brining up subjects some would find distaistful and or taboo. But physics is physics. Electro-magnetic is electro-magnetic all that about the brain and synapse is all about em. Truth is truth, why are items which do not require creating a wild child or other morally questionable research unacceptable topics when they clearly have answers to mental health questions. W2q1 manipulation “They just need someone
they can trust to lead them to those answers.” This is the essence of
manipulation. The power dynamic is present. The client might start to
subjugate themselves for approval and or x sicker reasons to figure out what
you the Trusted Dominant in the situation will want the client to say. Some people are strong
willed and will push your boundaries; others are week and will do anything it
takes to will the approval of a trusted strong willed friend. Just because
the therapist is not their friend does not change the facts of how a week
willed client might think of the situation. No matter what is going on
in a session the therapist is manipulating the situation. That manipulation
will and does have a profound effect on the person’s conscious and
subconscious mind. Therapy might be just one hour a week (personally I think
that one hour is a complete waist of time, a 2 to 3 hour block one to twice a
week is better. How many times have “we are just getting to something
interesting and 50 minutes time is up”, talk about a manipulation of the
first order), but the ramifications are beyond measure. Psychology has great tools,
even better research, and awesome power. But it is not being used correctly.
Facts are facts, physics is physics. I am not one to ignore obvious
inconsistencies in the physics. Ignoring the power dynamic with a client is
the first thing which needs to be fixed, a therapy session is a manipulation
session. Ignore that fact and the client can easily run circles around,
either by trying to take your power or by subjugating their will for what you
want. Or what they think you want. If they had the answers they would not
need you. If talking it out was enough they could just as easily talk it out
with their friends. This field needs to buy a
clue. Fortunately once a problem is identified solutions are easier to apply.
I apologize if this offends anyone, but where am I wrong? W2q2 shrink “Where do you think the word "shrink"
came from?” Philosophy and psychology emerged from the great
libraries about the same time Europe was learning about deepest darkest
Africa and in some cases the deepest portions of the Amazon where Head
Hunters carried around the “shrunken” heads of x persons. The technique for
making a head shrink came into western culture knowledge at approximately the
same time. “Why do you think it has a negative connotation
to it?” Which story is easier to deal with, the legend of
an event or the truth. The legend every time. So when the west found out
about the concept of psychology and the head hunters techniques the shock of
both merged them both into a collective psyche effect. Why is it negative. The very thought of being
decapitated, then your head shrunk and worn on the belt of a people your
entire culture considered to be just above apes if not just another form of
apes (historical fact, papal bull to prove it. Fact Africans for a very long
time were not considered more than apes. If this offends, yell at the pope.).
The concept put a shiver of fear down the spines of the society. Several
hundred years later the shiver is still present but the evidence of people in
need being helped has drastically increased the reputation of the field of
psychology. Especially since the tribes who used to do that have either
stopped or their culture destroyed and the remaining tribes personal absorbed
into larger tribes who do not do that. “Do you think that it will ever be
"cool" or even "okay" to see a psychologist?” Yes
absolutely. Eventually as more and more aspects of the lost knowledge from
the great libraries continues to be decrypted, the working tools of the
electro-magnetic will continue to come out. As they do better tools for
applying psychology to the individual and the world will emerge. The more
something works and makes people better the more credibility it will have. “What do you think would have to happen for it to
be accepted for people to seek out mental health help?” I think psychology needs to have a radically
organizational reorganization. Say a chapter 11 (metaphorically speaking)
where the internal structure is completely reorganized for efficiently and
charity of the chain of command. If psychology goes into chapter 11 and emerges a
recognizable medical field rather than a hard science, the society will give
it more respect. “How do we make that happen?” The ratio of medical science is 75% hard math based
scientific measurements and 25% guess work. Very similar to psychology. But
instead of all the differing branches of psychology competing with one
another for dominance (a fools errand if I ever saw one) and divided itself
into a similar structure to regular medicine. I.e. behavioralists = oncology,
Darwinist = radiology, pavlovian = internal medicine. Again speaking
metaphorically. I just picked random psychology fields and areas
of medical science and merged them not intending direct comparison. See the patient care starts with the GP, then
moves into various specialty fields. The bachelors might be able to = gp. For
x issue see specialist x for that treatment. For y issue “””””. For z issue
“””””. No one specialty field in psychology can fix all issues. Or did the last 150 years of research not just
prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. Behavioralists deal with x issue, so a
gestalt format is a good first step in the reorganization of psychology from
a real/pseudo science into a recognized mental medical science. W1q2 em signature and medicine The first advantage of classifying mental issues into types is exactly like classifying physical disorders into types. Each type has a slightly different way of treating it. Groups are classified together. Bacterial, Viral, cellular, etc. Use a similar classification scale for psychology will give statistical credibility to how to treat each issue. As I see it, eventually the sciences of electro-magnetic will catch up to the fields of medicine. Where mental and physical medical issues will be able to be measured for their integrated em signature. When that happens match the therapy with a similar em signature to the signature of the issue. Math, science, and electro-magnetic (em) have proved
everything has its own magnetosphere. Each magnetosphere has its own
signature (address) specific and unique to it. Now things will get
complicated from here but the basics are thus. It is kind of like this. You
have seen models used to demonstrate the shape as best we can figure as to
what a given molecular structure looks like. On a molecular scale match the address of the magnetosphere to the address of the therapy. With 200 years of experiments tracking the physics of each therapy, item, etc will give a mathematical road map as to how to exactly calculate the molecular integrated em signature of both illness and treatment. W2q1 stigma The stigma of mental health issues is nasty but accurate. A lot of the public side of mental health is the after affects of a person self medicating. From what I can tell a lot of drug addicts have mental health issues they tried to be their own doctor. Feeling to up take a downer, feeling to anxious take a relaxer, feeling low take an upper. There is only one fix for the situation. All of psychology needs to be reorganized from the inside out. Last week and for years I have observed lots of is it a science or is it not a science. Several classmates are not convinced psychology is a science. From what I can tell it is not a hard science. Science is all about finding fixed parameters to measure too and from to find predictable patterns. Now Pavlov and others found predictable patterns, but unless the underlying conditions are solved the treatment will only be effective for 3 months. Medicine on the other hand has an acceptable ratio of 75% hard clinical science and 25% guess work. Which seams vaguely similar to psychology. Psychology needs a makeover. From the inside out. The facts are clear; psychology using present mathematical models, medications, therapy techniques, public opinion, chemical dependencies, some of the really bad psychologist, some really really bad psychology teachers [present company seriously excluded. Previous class’s and etc experiences. You are not overtly running us through mazes for your pleasure.], the seriously mentally ill wandering the streets, and last but not least incarceration connections. All the above cast very negative lights on current psychology configurations. A reorganization is required to fix the perception problem. W2q1 dark ages medicine What are some methods that were used to treat
individuals who were presumably suffering from some form of mental illness
prior to the Renaissance period? Disgusting would be a great description. Prior to
the Renaissance all those ill were considered struck my demonic possession and
the clergy would come in to perform the necessities to remove the evil. What was the rationale behind these methods? When the Roman Empire fell to the final and
hardest time, the only thing the Vatican was interested in was power.
Maintaining, gaining more, influencing, and above all else blind obedience. Those with illnesses or the mind or body who
could not be forced back into “line”, were treated with unbelievable horrific
actions. The best of all treatments was to be mercifully executed, the worst
was a long painful time in the dungeon to purfy the evil out of the person. Power corrupts and absolutely power corrupts
absolutely. The Vatican’s a great example of absolute power from 500-1500
c.e. The treatments were not based on making the person healthy but making
the person obey the church without question. Whatever was causing the person to not obey was
the prescribed treatment. A simple person might have been given a job far
away from public view. A cripple was deemed not worthy of living and killed
outright. Mental disorders were usually treated with an accusation of heretic
and depending on severity of the disorder tortured fast and killed, burned at
the stake, or years on the rake. Little
to nothing was considered other than what would make the person not want to
obey the church with their heart and soul. Simple
treatment options. Horrific but effective. The population was so conditioned
response to the horror of watching people hanged or burned at the stake that
by the 1600s it was an every weekend event. Remnance of that conditioned
response can still be seen in puritan movements today. W1q1 slippery slope My thoughts on this subject are radically difficult. I could not care less about the reasons for the breakdown in the doctor patient relationship. I always have to look at things from the point of view of; intimacy is intimacy. The power and energy dynamic within the framework of psychology needs to be seen within a radically deep emotional connection. The slippery slope between keeping a professional distance and the deepest portions of intimacy is the same thing. Slip and become emotionally involved destroys that dynamic. Going from being doctor patient to deeply intimate (yes I do mean the grossest aspects of intimacy, we are adults talking about the most dangerous aspects of the human; their emotions. No reason to mince words.) in my opinion even if it is to comfort grief, it is still not ok in any way. Let that part of the dynamic down and the dynamic can ever be rebuilt. Body medical doctors can sometimes depending on the situation and patient do it, but their internal structure and how society views them is so different that they have rules and other power dynamic structures in place to keep the doctor patient thing in place. No it is never ok in current psychological dynamics to breach that part code of conduct. Dr Reynolds you asked a lot of questions, it will take time to answer W1q1 house If you want a great archetype
example of the best way to have a separation between you and the client watch
House. He enjoys seeing his clients from a far back to health. He loves
solving the puzzle, but enjoys watching from the balcony his saved from the
jaws of death patients walk out the hospital door. The patient is trusting the
psychologist to storm their depths without getting emotionally involved. The
job is harder since the psychologist, the patient, and the society have no
good organizational format to operate within. No one actually knows for
certain what the rules and regulations are. New Orleans Katrina, of the
several hundred hilo flight crews few of any had worked together before. They
had the same training, so if they had met only after they plugged their
helmets into the pa system they each knew their jobs and knew the rest of the
team knew their jobs. That is internal structure. The individual, the coast
guard, and society all know exactly what to expect from a hilo flight.
Americans have no idea what to expect from one psychologist to another. More than a few psychologists are
abusers who went from being chemical dependant to enjoying witnessing the
clients emotional spewing. Whatever will get the endorphins ect racing for
the high those people will do. Enjoying the high is enjoying the high. Organize the internal structure better, and we will all benefit. W1q1 sceince To my understanding of body medical science they use a simple algebraic equation A+b=c, but in mental medical science is far more complicated and layered. Not to mention the fields in which current psychology uses the scientific method in; mental health, chemical dependency, and the “lightman” and “bones” format (the study of; micro facial expressions, the pitch and tone of the voice, body positions, and the physical history combined with a mental history [what the actions were versus what the person thought they were doing.]. Showed in archetype demonstrative format through the characters on those two shows.) I think psychology has a wonderful chance of being an actual medical science one day. The concentration needs to be on the internal organization. By combining the fields and tests of; physics, electro-magnetics, the tools psychology already possesses, the lightman/bones methods, etc psychology can emerge as a true hard medical science. W1 q1 exjunkies answer to I had an additional thought on this subject, thanks for reminding me of it. When I sat down to write the earlier one, the extra detail slipped my mind. A trend in psychology are for both the therapist and client to be in some way connected to chemical dependency. “You do not know what I am going through, you have no answer for me.” This coming from a junky attempting to detox. My thoughts on the subject are. Why does this dynamic exist? Why do junkies feel more comfortable talking and detoxing with a psychologist who is a recovered junky then to a psychologist who is not a recovering junky? To me this puts the entire power dynamic into a very bad light. I can think of several reasons for the x need but after watching many documentaries on the subject with both therapists all I can see is the therapists are more easily manipulated by the client. “on celebrity rehab” each season some hard core person makes the comment “there is nothing for us to talk about, you have no idea how to help me. You have never been in my position, you have nothing to say to me.” I find this a complete interesting comment. Not for the easier to manipulate format but for the how psychologists especially ex-junkies to be seen as having something legitimate to offer not just to help junkies detox but the general population. Dr Drew being a medical doctor and his skills at counseling. I find even though I do not think he is an ex-junky. They listen to him. What makes the dynamic different from medical doctors to psychologists so vastly different? It is not just the number of years in school or the prescription ability. Something else is present. W1 feedback This week was a very good week for me as my understanding of psychology was not clouded by a behavioralist turning the class into a maze. I actually learned instead of fighting off my reactions from my childhood. I was trilled to learn several very important facts. One William James stated psychology is not a real field of science yet, it has a long way to go. I know I have mentioned this a dozen times in only a say 4 days but the consequences of this statement are (in my own humble opinion) drastic to the extreme. Psychology has a great chance of being able to become equal to medical science in both the eyes of psychologists and well as the world, the proper steps need to be taken to push the field those coulpe extra steps forward. New Mexico has already given psychologists the ability to prescribe area specific drugs. Which is great for credibility but not great for the ramifications. See psychology needs to come out of the shadows of both medicine and philosophy. The top end nurse is allowed to prescribe medications, with limitations of course. But who would you rather go to a top nurse or a top doctor, my answer every time is the top doctor. The field of medicine is too serious for a field not to have a backbone and be seen as equal to other fields. Psychology has the ability to be seen as equal to body medicine but it needs to be reorganized. How to reorganize the internal structure of psychology, I am not sure. But one thing is clear the working tools psychology has to; diagnose, treat, prescribe, and see through to good health are equal to the body. Physical medicine is great, but very limited to the perspective of the kinesiology of how the body works. Physical medicine is a very basic algebraic equation; A the standard body, B something is wrong, C diagnose/treat to return to A. Mind is vastly more complicated and needs mathematical models to reflect the higher degree of complexity. Psychology and Psychic the terms in the early part of psychology were one in the same. No matter what feelings one has toward differing words, the facts are the same. Posted from here up. Did not post below. to go over and think. WHen I have read more of the textbook. I have learned a great deal from this just first week. I learned as much in this first week as I did in the entire first class. (UCS) (CR) are interesting but as far as motion goes they are too far down the chain of actions to be that important. They are great for the 1800’s, but not great for a hundred years later. The AMA is constantly putting out new techniques and new ways of exploring who to made B into A better. Where are the psychological studies? More on the autonomic nervous systems, synapsis fireing, etc must have had advances in the last say 30 years. Psychological medicine How to organize the current borderline pseudo-science of psychology into a legitimate well organized medical science. The internal organization is the key. Well organize internally and the rest of the world will gain respect. W1q1 therapist strategy The second the dynamic shifts from the therapist having the power, with the client emotionally upset to the therapist emotionally upset, to the client having the power there is no recovery from that situation. A therapist has to know enough strategy to know 15 moves ahead what is going to be happening. A therapist surprised they are upset and need to excuse themselves for a minute. Most clients I have known know and will exploit the power shift. We are taught to exploit weaknesses in others characters from the time we are toddlers. Two or more decades of conditioned responses we almost cannot help ourselves. As therapists we have to know well ahead of time what is going on. If the therapist starts to get emotional, the therapist needs to know about it well before hand. Knowing about it before will ensure proper preventative measures are in place before the client becomes aware of anything. By the time of the excuse me for a minute, it is too late to fix. The therapist has to recues themselves from the relationship. A therapy session devolving into a power exchange dynamic is the worst possible environment to heal in. The therapist has to maintain the highest level of integrity or the healing process cannot proceed. W1q1 gangs gestalt Over the course of my life I have witnessed several things. People crave to be part of a group. Humans are hard wired to not only be part of a group but also the organizational structure of the group allows for differing degrees of cooperation within. Very complicated valuables to track mathematically. Some groups allow a huge amount of autonomy for the individual “gestalt”, and some groups will not tolerate independent thinking from their members. How this relates to sporting teams and gangs. Gang activity goes drastically up when the economy goes down. Or when a specific political group turns fundamental, the ripple effect of the fundamental turn forces the masses to “pull themselves up, by their own boot strings” to coin a phrase I heard a lot in the late 70s and all through the 80s. What the political groups want is for citizens to go out and work very hard to provide for themselves some kind of delusion of the past, mostly the jobs from the past to be a self made person are no long in existence (hence the delusion). So the citizens instead of joining sporting teams turn to “easy money” to pull themselves up. When civil opportunities dry up (too expensive) the citizens are forced to turn to other means to make ends meet. Easy or hard, some sociological cultures are more prone toward easy versus hard. Hence the emergence of violent street gangs. W1q1 jones abbots Without the slightest hesitation I would say clearly most citizens of western cultures are interested in power and control. Science is only a manifestations to legitimize the natural need for power, control, answers, and to find predictable outcomes. Humans as well as some other creatures have developed a need to find out what is happening next with some level of predictability. The entire concept of a job and the infrastructure which makes a 9-5 job possible points to the need for all humans to have power and control over what happens in any given set of time. Every group needs a leader. Keeping up with the Jones’s, the popular kids, etc all reflects a need for both leadership and control. Making psychology a much harder field to organize into a hard science when instead of just having an A the standard human body, B the body does not work standard, C solution to make the b turn back into A. The variables are much more complicated, with far less understanding. However the study of the mind and the study of the body should have separations. Psychology can emerge as a great equal to body medical science; it just needs improve the internal organizational structure. Gain power through organization. For learning the internal organization provides both internal legitimacy as well as external legitimacy. One reason freemasons have so much power is their internal organizational structure is a secret. The people coming out of that structure know things and can operate in conditions which lead to the idea there is value in the internal organization. A good majority of America and several other countries owe their existence to men trained in that organization. Secret societies are almost the prove western cultures require control over X item. W1q1 medicine and psychology I agree with William James for most of the time psychology has been a recognized field it was not a science. The tests, mathematical models, the definitions, and how the field is internally organized did not qualify it as being a true science. It was still just a field or discipline to learn about. The problem with psychology is it is still not organized into a legitimate serious field of scientific examination. The tests are great but the generalizations are inappropriate to the extreme. THe human body is not one size fits all. Give 10 m.p.k. worked fine will complicated drugs were invented. Every biological region has specific balance points in which some meds are good and some meds are deadly. Primaquine for instance cannot be given to those of eastern Mediterranean descent, very dangerous. The pharmacist job is complicated based on the facts of the body is not one size fits all. Psychology has not recognized this basic fact. One size fits all is not accurate beyond a short few months basis. But instead of being able to test in a chemical lab i.e. one test one result. Psychology has the following issues; 1 the study of the mind is split in two (1 how the person ticks, 2 the environment in which the person is living), 2 the someone see’s themselves and what the lab reports say might be radically different. It is very hard to argue with a chemical test, it is very easy to argue with a statistical analysis. All the patient needs to do is say “that is not like me at all.” and the importance of the test is suddenly invalid to the patient. 3 the dogmatic understanding people have heavily influences the previous 2 points. Several subjects are simply not possible to bring up in psychology because of various “issues” some have with the concepts. Even though those concepts are real and need to be laboratory tested (accurately), those subject are still very much taboo. They are so taboo I can only reference them in this post with the most vague words possible. Medical science depends on many things to work. Not the least of which is the knowledge that to gain power over the witchdoctors, witches, homeopathy, Chinese traditional medicine, and to be accepted by the church; early medicine went into a scorched earth policy. Which that scorched earth can still be seen in the conditioned response medical personal have when their authority at what they do is questioned. Do not question my authority is part of why psychology does not have a solid science and or recognized by all as being a legitimate field of medicine. For all these internal conflict issues and many more (internal structure); the field of psychology has a difficult time being seen as an actual field of science let alone a field of medicine. Those that are in charge of organization of the field of psychology have to clean house and find power, in order to be seen as legitimate. The mathematical models depend on none linear math to see portions of how humans think. W1q2 emotions The second a therapist is angry with a client the client is no longer a client. Medicine requires neutrality. Anger, frustration, etc are all signs of weakness and involvement. The second you as a psychologist become angry with a client that is the very minute to recommend to someone else and that person is no longer a client. Almost no middle ground, neutrality is of the most importance when treating a medical issue. Do what every it takes to remain neutral to the client. W1q1 burn out The only real solution is to use the chain of command. Talk to them and see if you can help them find a better path. If that does not work about 3 times, go to the persons supervisor. Make it clear it is not a nasty thing but one team member coworker trying to help another. If the supervisor will not do anything, then keep going up the chain of command till the burned out person receives the help they need. Last night greys anatomy the characters of Meridith and Ling; ling mentally collapsed meridith helped. The only reason ling was in the room was her supervisor went to their supervisor to help. Work the chain of command till a sufficient solution is found. One person cannot do it alone. Look for the symptoms not the secondary issues. Do not complain about them not working, find out what (limb is broken) portion is broken and seek help from the proper resources. I just got off the phone with a friend who I had to talk into calling cps on his wife’s sisters kids. They need proper help, no one else but a guardian adlightam can provide and the parents and S.O.s will only back off the a cop. Use the proper tool for the proper job. Supervisors have a job for a reason. To see the big picture and work with their subordinates correctly, making corrections as needed. W1q1 psychologists rx I think it is a great idea. For one thing the riggors or medical school about the length of time they have in learning about “mental” drugs is about 2 years. So that portion matches. But since the drugs for mental issues are limited an intense course is fine. How many regular MD’s have licenses to prescribe all kinds of differing drugs, but are so incompetent they should be in jail instead of a licensed MD. The amount of schooling has no real emphases on the skill of the person. I have known fully certified md’s who would not be able to diagnose a cold correctly. Take the all powerful Rx pad away from the MD’s and it will force MD’s to step up their game. Competition is almost away a good thing which it comes to attempting to force the population to improve. Remember medicine is an art not a science. Just because it is controlled by the medical field since the dark ages “burning times” does not mean the medical field is a deity. The MD who treated Michael Jackson to death still have a license and is practicing. The major amount of effort it takes to remove an MD’s license is so rigorous it is almost impossible. So opening up their most powerful tool will only help patient care. W1q1 stagnation Every atom is in constant motion. Change is happening at just under 186,000 mps at subatomic levels. This answer can only be solved based on the concepts of the societal structure the person lives in. Person, family, street, neighborhood, community, city district, city, county, state, country region, country, polarity hemisphere, solar hemisphere, and of course the heritage the person and layers up the person comes from. Some groups teach to stay as stagnate as possible. Other groups teach change is the only real answer. Other groups turn strongly to various chemical enhancements to get through the day. Each group has their own rules. Those rules dictate what classical and conditioned responses the individuals in that group can and cannot do. If a person is stuck in their ways, where did they learn to be stuck. W1q1 bipolar If I might be so bold in giving some input. If I am out of line I apologize. From a purely scientific point of view the word polarity points directly to electro-magnetic. Since you are obviously a human you have your own personal magnetosphere around you. Many different cultures have differing words for the concept but I like the scientific one. If you having issues with your polarities and you have no money to pay for the meds; I would suggest learning techniques which might be able to bring your personal magnetosphere into balance. Recent discoveries in both physics and micro-biology have points to every atom is made of compressed energy. I.e. energy compressed into electricity, compresses into quarks, etc sorry if that was boring. So since we are made of large amounts of electricity compressed into forms, would it not be advisable to learn about electro-magnetics. I think “know thyself” would point to learning about what makes a human a human. I.e. the body, i.e. electro-magnetics. W1q1 know thyself “I wonder why people think that it is important
for people to understand themselves, and discover who they are?” One of the reasons I did not start college till I
was 37 is I needed to understand myself enough to learn effectively. “As a psychologist in the field, how do you think
you can apply this idea of "know thy self" to your work with your
clients?” The more the psychologist knows about themselves
the harder it will be for a client to learn their tells and use the
counselors tells against them. If mental health teaches us anything it is
this; human nature is designed to survive. We are instructed from infancy to
survive and take advantage of those around us’s weeknesses. A person wearing
a toga for instance would soon find themselves either ridiculed or worse
considered nuts. As Socrates put it through Plato who wrote it down the more
you know about yourself the less likely your weaknesses can be used against
you. The more you know yourself the easier to interact with people and keep a
clear head. “What does it mean to be on a path of
self-discovery, and when is that path over?” Not all who wander are fools. To wander picking
up varying self improvement lessons from the environment you life is the goal
of this life, at least according to several of the great thinkers; Socrates, Descartes, Newton,
and more of the guys on this link. Socrates made part of his living by
wandering from town square to square giving impromptu lectures. Most educated
did the same thing. Today that is similar to our concept of Standing on your
soap box. Then philosophers did it, today mostly religious nuts do it. http://www.mazzaroth.com/Introduction/Renaissance.htm To
know how you self, is the greatest power of all. Since it is the only true
power which cannot be taken away. For
me “The
statement “know thy self” is attributed to the early Greek philosopher
Socrates. In your opinion, how does this statement serve as a seed
for the development of psychology as a formal discipline some 2,400 years
later?” Know thy self from Socrates is an interesting
concept. Sociologically speaking the context is accurate but missing a lot of
substance. Socrates lived in the city-state of Athens
(currently known as Athens, Greece). He lived during a time of major
political and religious unrest. Not entirely different than America today.
The few, screaming loud enough to sound like a large % of the population. The language they spoke was Linear C aka Classic
Greek. But Socrates had access to libraries the Mycenaean’s and Dorian’s
wrote in Linear B. As well as some material in Linear A [today classified as
a dead language.] which is the Cretan-Minoan language. Athens first 2500 years was founded and called
Poseidon till “Perseus” “Clash of the Titans” the
Athenians took the city and corrupted the high priestess Medusa of the
Poseidon Temple. I missed a few portions but I hope you get the point. The
two events are separate, but …. Why is all that important to the understanding of
Temet Knosca {One of my favorite quotes before I saw Neo}, it is important
because the context of the miss translated geocentric Greek philosophy has a
direct bearing on the translation of Temet Knosca. Geo Centric does not mean anything close to what
has been reported in English as the true definition. Know thy self was a
direct reflection from how the individual should conduct their thinking based
on living inside the city-state of Athens. Geo the land the city-state was sitting on.
Specific to the city if referenced in the city or with a specific other named
city in the sentence if standing not in that city. So geo does not mean the
Aegean but each specific city-state. Centric mean centered on a specific location,
culture, philosophy, and or religion belief. So in truth Geocentric means the area or the
specific city-state and its specific organizational format. Think L U K O U R G O S Lycurgus the father of Sparta or the Sparta in which birthed the Hoplite think the 300. Pre and post Lycurgus the geocentric reference would be different. Plus Lycurgus traveled to Crete talking to a “old one” of the group. He might have made his living as X but had knowledge of the pre-Thera 1650 b.c.e eruption. Why is that eruption and Cretan civilization important; the Cretans were so powerful they scared the Egyptians, had trade routes all over the Atlantic for over 1000 years, and after the Thera volcano erupted went from being a powerhouse to being conquered. The temple of Knossos is an engineering wonder only matched 4000 years later by the Pentagon. Five stories, two basements, earthquake resistant walls, fresh running water in every room, running water sewers in every room, and has required no maintenance for 4000 years. The running water is why the only thing comparable is large construction post western world rediscovery indoor running water plumbing. Know thy self within the bounds of the geocentric you live in. All those facts were common knowledge then, almost complete mysteries to us. No man is an island. Consequently no matter how much a person knows themselves some aspects of their actions are going to be dictated by the centric they live in. Knowing about the societal infrastructure will allow the person to truly start knowing themselves in and outside a community. http://www.e-classics.com/lycurgus.htm “What does it mean to be empirical in the
pursuit of knowledge?” Empirical is hard actual evidence. Something
which would be acceptable in a court of law. Empirical is a basis for
separating out fact from emotional conjecture. A rumor can become fact based
solely on someone states x might be true, a person hears x and drops the
might. Suddenly x goes from rumor to fact in a few seconds. Empirical
requires hard evidence. “How does this relate to the scientific method?” The Scientific method was developed during the
middle of the Renaissance where the Malleus
Maleficarum was one of two books allowed to be seen and
read by not only clergy but high ranking commoners. The search for the
witch’s mark, which produced nothing other than patriarchal cultures being
dominant and sadistic to perceived enemies of the state. Nothing more than a
eye witness was needed to send someone to the rack for the rest of their
short painful life. Even though no witch’s marks were ever found did not stop
1000 years of political maneuvering, torture of enemies, and mass genocide.
Physical evidence and cohobating eye witness accounts versus the old trust
good Christian people to tell the truth. The definition of geocentric was taken and
corrupted to reflect dogmatic power and control over the population and all
scientific endeavors. “see the pattern?” solid evidence of facts
corrupted by the political and religious leaders to gain power and control.
The Scientific Method makes it much harder for evidence to be corrupted and
twisted into whatever the strongest voice wants. It is possible, but harder. Psychology Freud and Adolf Adolf was attempting to be the next holy roman emperor Germany had abopted the Greek city-state model for sociology, philosophy, and psychology. Remove the barbarians; first none agaens, Etruscans, tyroleans, gauls, Iberians, British, sarmartians/Germans, Egyptians, carthaginaians, middle easeternsers, monotheistics. Jews. The barbarians have been labeled many things. Remove one name place in another. Currently in American the word Jew has been taken out and the word liberal placed in. W1q1 Jesus W1q1 Just as Socrates was hated and executed for his psychological questioning of the Athenian authority. So were the Jews in the third riech. So are liberals today. NO matter what your political persuation, I am tired of hearing uncredited quotes from Gerbals coming out of gop leaders on fox everyday for the last few months. The only differences are one English v German and liberal v Jew. Same political situation existed in Athens at the time of Socrates and he was executed for speaking against the tyranny. Every person I have read about so far in the textbook has come under some political leaders tyrannical thumb; suppressing information the powerful do not like. From Socrates to now, know thyself has almost always been a threat to the powerful. The more one knows thsemles the less able they are to be manipulated into not thinking and blindly following the leaders dictats. |
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