The Vinca Language (Hungary) 4000 b.c.e

 

V         Uruz

A         Ansuz

N         Nauthiez

I           Isa

E         Ewaz

R          Raido

 

 

The Vinča civilization dates to 6000 b. c. e.

 

That is just fine to understand and accept.  But what is not acceptable to understand is that things take time to engineer.

 

You can not just go from a tent technology to wrokign stone overnight, it takes trial and error, it takes mathematics to figure out even basic structural engineering. 

 

Even trying to copy the geology of a cave is a extremely complex thing to undertake.

 

So all this stuff the Vinča left behind takes a lot longer to master then one might think, it takes a minimune of 500 years for a tribe to go from a tent tech to stone working.  Even if that stone working tech is only a half dug out hold with a couple feet tall wall, with timbers on top, that is still complex when you think about it.

 

Vinča / Old European

 

Theory  My theory is that the Vinča had direct contact with the Cro-Magnon culture and was taught its language cave paintings, over time developed those cave paintings from just art, or some rudimentary form of language into the root of what I call the symbolic language base.

 

The Vinča are talked about in history as being the Vanier from the mythical Germanic history the poetic Edda's.  Since the location, and the time from the Edda's match the history and the time of archaeology.

History

The Vinča culture existed in central and eastern Europe from at least 6000 b. c. e.  up till the time a patriarchal culture moved in or invaded, were beaten back and the 2 cultures merged.  Over time the philosophy of the AEsier culture over took the philosophy of the Vanier. 

Location

The central and eastern parts of Europe.  Specifically the Vinča valley in

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The language itself,

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Laguz

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Alhaz

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Daggaz

 

Table translations

As I find them I will post and translate them

What happened to this language

Over taken by the AEsier culture.

References

The poetic Edda’s

 

The Vinča are a culture which has been named courtesy of the Vinča river in Hungary. Since this was not the name of the river in antiquity nor was it the name of the culture.

The Vinča is most closely related to the Vanier culture of the Poetic Edda. Existed at similar time. Simile writing format. Similar cultural makeup.

 

According to the Edda’s the Vanier were a balanced matriarchal and patriarchal culture living in central and eastern Europe sometime previous to the Greek invasions.

Frey and Freya were the main deities/high priest/ess and or king and queen of this culture. The names and or titles did not translate well thousands of years later, through a dozen name changes, where Snorri Sterlson finally write down the oral history living on Iceland during the dark ages.

The problem is; that stories from Germany and Hungary written down through that many language changes under the execution by being burned alive circa 1000 ce inquisition; there is no possible way the stories are close to the original.

 

Plus adding the facts that the Vanier culture were invaded and came to a peaceful armistice with the Aesier (the easier were most likely a monotheistic culture from either the Hyksos descendants, or an earlier monotheistic tribe). Over the next several hundred years the cultures merged. Till the more dominant AEsier culture with more dominant schema slowly took over the more peaceful Vanier.

Evidence of said can be seen in America now; the Latino culture is so dominant that the American culture is slowly starting to integrate the Latino culture into its infrastructure. Dial 2 for Spanish.

 

 

The Vinča are a culture which has been named courtesy of the Vinča river in Hungary. Since this was not the name of the river in antiquity nor was it the name of the culture.

The Vinča is most closely related to the Vanier culture of the Poetic Edda. Existed at similar time. Simile writing format. Similar cultural makeup.

 

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Old European / Vinča/vanier

Origin
This language has been found throughout the European world specifically from archaeological digs near south-east Europe, in particular from Vinča near Belgrade, but also in Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, eastern Hungary, Moldova, southern Ukraine and the former Yugoslavia. The artefacts date from between the 7th and 4th millennia BC and those decorated with these symbols are between 8,000 and 6,500 years old.

Some scholars believe that the Vinča symbols represent the earliest form of writing ever found, predating ancient Egyptian and Sumerian writing by thousands of years. Since the inscriptions are all short and appear on objects found in burial sites, and the language represented is not known, it is highly unlikely they will ever be deciphered.

Symbols dating from the oldest period of Vinča culture (6th-5th millennia BC)

Oldest Vinča symbols

Common symbols used throughout the Vinča period

Common Vinča symbols

Other Vinča symbols

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Vinca language

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Translations

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strength, Uruz

 

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3 balanced

 

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Kannaz

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Sowillo

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Ingwaz, something small with greater effect

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a religious symbol

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Uruz

 

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crafts skill mastery

 

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Uruz

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Kannaz wisdom

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Alhaz

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Gebo double partnership

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Thurasaz

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time loop

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isa

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kannaz

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Alhaz

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time wheel, extending influence externally

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horned animal Alhaz

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Uruz

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Vinča / Old European

 

Theory  My theory is that the Vinča had direct contact with the Cro-Magnon culture and was taught its language cave paintings, over time developed those cave paintings from just art, or some rudimentary form of language into the root of what I call the symbolic language base.

 

The Vinča are talked about in history as being the Vanier from the mythical Germanic history the poetic Edda's.  Since the location, and the time from the Edda's match the history and the time of archaeology.

History

The Vinča culture existed in central and eastern Europe from at least 6000 b. c. e.  up till the time a patriarchal culture moved in or invaded, were beaten back and the 2 cultures merged.  Over time the philosophy of the AEsier culture over took the philosophy of the Vanier. 

Location

The central and eastern parts of Europe.  Specifically the Vinča valley in

 

 

Bibliography

1908 M. M. Vasic, South-Eastern Elements in the Prehistoric Civilisation of Servia, Annual of the British School at Athens XIV, Athens, 319-342.

1910 M. M. Vasic, Die Hauptergebnisse der prahistorischen Ausgrabung in Vinca in Jahre 1908, Prahistorische Zeitschrift II, Berlin, 1, 23-39.

1911 M. M. Vasic, Die Datierung der Vincaschicht, Prahistorische Zeitschrift III, Berlin, 126-132.

1932 M. M. Vasic, Preistorijska Vinca I, Beograd.

1936 M. M. Vasic, Preistorijska Vinca II-IV, Beograd.

1939 F. Holste, Zur chronologischen Stellung der Vinca Keramik, Wiener Prahistorische Zeitschrift XXVI/1, Wien, 1-21.

1950 V. Milojcic, Koros - Starcevo - Vinca, Reinecke Festschrift, Mainz, 108-118.

1951 M. Garasanin, Hronologija vincanske grupe, Ljubljana.

1957 D. Srejovic - B. Jovanovic, Pregled kamenog orudja i oruzja iz Vince, Arheoloski Vestnik VIII/3-4, 256-296.

1959. D. Srejovic - B. Jovanovic, Orudje i oruzje od kosti i nakit iz Vince, Starinar IX-X, 181-190.

1964 Z. Letica, The Neolithic Figurines from Vinca, Archaeology 17/1, New York, 26-32.

1972 I. Schwidetzky, Menschliche Skelettreste von Vinca, Glasnik antropoloskog drustva Jugoslavije 8-9, Beograd, 101-112.

1979 G. Marjanovic-Vujovic, Necropole Medievale Vinca, Inventaria Archaeologica, fasc. 22, Zagreb, Y 209-218.

1984 Vinca u praistoriji i srednjem veku, Katalog Galerije SANU 50, Beograd.

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Old European / Vinča

Origin
These symbols have been found on many of the artefacts excavated from sites in south-east Europe, in particular from Vinča near Belgrade, but also in Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, eastern Hungary, Moldova, southern Ukraine and the former Yugoslavia. The artefacts date from between the 7th and 4th millennia BC and those decorated with these symbols are between 8,000 and 6,500 years old.

Some scholars believe that the Vinča symbols represent the earliest form of writing ever found, predating ancient Egyptian and Sumerian writing by thousands of years. Since the inscriptions are all short and appear on objects found in burial sites, and the language represented is not known, it is highly unlikely they will ever be deciphered.

Symbols dating from the oldest period of Vinča culture (6th-5th millennia BC)

Much more to come like the rest of the symbols and my translations of what this ancient language actually means.

 

Vinca

http://www.yuheritage.com/vinca.htm

http://www.rastko.org.yu/arheologija/vinca/vinca_eng.html#_Toc504111709

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/vinca.htm

http://www.alphabets-world.com/vinca.html

http://www.prehistory.it/ftp/winn11.htm

http://www.celticlady.com/celt-syms/basic.html